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Old May 20, 2012 | 07:04 PM
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I just purchased a 76 Corvette Stingray but dont know alot about them, i hear lots of people talking about nubmers matching cars, can anyone tell me if mine is matching:

VIN# 1Z37X6S411240 (on dash)

Block # 1GS411240 V1028CKC

Alternator # 1102484 42A

Can anyone please help me.................................:will y:
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Old May 20, 2012 | 07:08 PM
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Looks all original to me....
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Old May 20, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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I'd say so.
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Old May 21, 2012 | 12:54 AM
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It's matching (engine pad VIN derivative matches the VIN).

It's probably original, but matching does not assure you of that.
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869
It's matching (engine pad VIN derivative matches the VIN).

It's probably original, but matching does not assure you of that.
This might be confusing if you don't know the lingo, so I'll translate it into English: The VIN (1Z37X6S411240) contains the serial number of the car (11240, which means it was the 11,240th 'vette made that model year.). The number on the engine (1GS411240) contains part of the VIN, called a "derivative", (S411240). This verifies that the engine came with the car from the factory (unless it's a fake, which I guess happens). Can't help you out with the alternator, sorry.


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Old May 21, 2012 | 04:08 AM
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I wrote this up on my 78 but illustrates the concept of matching numbers. I think this will help you understand what you're looking for as well as identifying how extensive you wish to explore and understand your vehicle

Matching Numbers
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Old May 21, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryjba
Block # 1GS411240 V1028CKC...
1GS411240 is actually 16S411240. 6 is the model year code for 1976.

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Old May 21, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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That info may verify the engine and alternator. But, what about the transmission and all the other components with date codes/stamps? Obviously, the engine, transmission, frame and VIN are the most important items to verify; but many others are to be checked if you want the entire car to be "numbers matching".
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Originally Posted by scottyp99
This verifies that the engine came with the car from the factory (unless it's a fake, which I guess happens).
Just to be clear, it does not verify it came with the car from the factory. In this particular case, it's unlikely (but absolutely possible) someone restamped the engine because of the car we are talking about. However, restamps are so common and so well-done now that certification boards such as Bloomington Gold are changing their standards to allow restamps. And, lower-dollar cars are definitely worth upgrading to "numbers matching" with a restamped motor, based on market value.

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That info may verify the engine and alternator. But, what about the transmission and all the other components with date codes/stamps? Obviously, the engine, transmission, frame and VIN are the most important items to verify; but many others are to be checked if you want the entire car to be "numbers matching".
And while we are being super-accurate, lets remember that VIN matches on parts like the engine pad VIN derivative, the transmission and the frame are "numbers matching" instances. However, parts like the alternator and the full myriad of other parts are not "numbers matching." Those parts are correct for a certain model/useage, as is the date stamp when the part includes one. However, correct/appropriate numbers are different from "matching."

Why do we care about the semantics? It's simple. Matching numbers have to be fraudulently created or restamped to be used in a car that doesn't still have the original part. An engine stamp, for instance. You have to deck the block pad, try to fake the broach marks and stamp the numbers to match a VIN for it to be "matching."

Conversely, your car could come with a chrome alternator out of a junkyard. You could easily buy a correct serial numbered alternator with the appropriate date range, bolt it on your car and that would be the end of it. There is nothing to match.

There is a very common confusion between "matching" and "correct."
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Old May 21, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Vettebuyer5869

There is a very common confusion between "matching" and "correct."
I can't wait for the day when people stop using the 'numbers matching' phrase as it's been abused into an absolutely meaningless state. 'Correct' is not much better as it can mean the original factory installed part, a lucky junkyard find replacement piece or a restamped phony.

I've heard more and more people now using the 'born with' phrase.
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