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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Ironic that you mention the one organization that avoids the term 'matching numbers' at all costs and DOESN'T decide if anything is 'original' on a car.
Funny how there seems to be a persistent misconception of the NCRS being the Corvette originality police. NCRS is really just an organization of owners, many but not all who share a common interest in judging Corvettes based on how close the cars come to how they were typically built. I'm aware of no attempt to verify originality.

I saw an article once on a restomod in one of their magazines. So much for the theory the members are all purists..
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by my 76 ray
I saw the pics of your car on your other thread and I noticed it already has had the pop up headlights replaced. If your dad replaced them then you might want to keep them the way they are. If that's the case, then I wouldn't worry about "numbers matching" or "originality" at all regardless of how you want to define those terms.

Good Luck with your project.
Yea Daddy replaced them. He had said something to the fact that that's how the "race" corvettes lights were.. I have yet to come a cross a pic of another car with lights like that.... I'm not to fond of them, but I'm gonna keep it the way daddy envisioned it to be... Thanks for the luck, ima need it... Ha
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by IndispensableSoul
Can someone tell me exactly what this is and how I go about doing it. I would like to keep my project with all originals as far as color and stuff goes. I've been told this is how I do it, but I'm not sure how I go about actually "DOING" it!

Thanks so much
First, check the trim tag on the door jamb.
Look up the codes.

Does the car color match?
Does the interior match?

Next.. VIN on the windshield pillar.
Do you find the same "numbers" stamped on the front of the engine?

If yes, and you feel good, then stop.

If yes and you want more pain, then continue.

Now, check the heads, intake manifold.. transmission, carburetor, exhaust manifolds, distributor, starter, alternator, water pump

Do you find the right "numbers" based on research to determine "what" they should be for your year?

If yes, and you feel good enough, then stop.
If yes, and you more pain, then continue.

Ultimately, you will find PLENTY of "stuff" that is not correct.
Just keep looking, but stop when you feel good about what you found.

If you love the eternal search for perfection, which is both elusive and expensive but looks good when you get close, then join NCRS with the rest of us.
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Old Sep 10, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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This is the kind of stuff I like to see. Just beautiful, Alan71
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 06:16 AM
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Hi bk,
Then 2 more for you!
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Old Sep 11, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Alan, you bring the bokeh to corvette parts like no one else.
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Old Sep 12, 2012 | 06:08 AM
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Hi,
"bokeh"?
I'm going to stop... I've stolen enough of this thread.
Regards,
Alan
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by MelWff
Does your car have the original engine, transmission? If it doesnt nothing else matters concerning "matching numbers".
does the frame have the same serial number as the engine
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Hi sp,
The frame was stamped with a partial VIN sequence.
I believe it can be seen, (but with difficulty), on the top of the driver's side frame rail just to the rear of the rear tire.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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There are some lawyers out there that will state, ( and get a legal judge to agree) that when you claim your car has matching numbers, you are guaranteeing that your car has it's original engine.

There are others out there that state that matching numbers only means that the VIN on the car matches the VIN on the title.

there are a thousand combinations of the definition in between the above 2 statements also encompassing one or all parts of a car. Just make sure when you buy/sell a car, that you and the other person on the opposite side of the transaction have a good discussion on what it means and to put that agreement on the sale contract.


same could also be said of what 'all' or 'original' means.
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by keithinspace
...I read the thread some time ago about how NCRS judging occurs...If I understood correctly, they don't jack the car up, so the numbers on the transmission don't even factor in on the judging...
Order a copy of the NCRS Judging Guide and read through it. It explains exactly how cars are judged.


Originally Posted by sidepipe69
...does the frame have the same serial number as the engine...
Yes. Engines, Transmissions, and frames have VIN derivitive stamps.

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