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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 12:44 PM
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Any thoughts on using a steamer to clean slightly dirty/oily areas of intake manifold, valve covers, etc. Remember when steam cleaning an engine the way to go. Not interested in simple green spray down. Tried that in past and too much water to rinse off.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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I use a simple siphen sprayer attachment for my air compressor hose. mix dawn dishwash soap with hot water and spray it down, rinse with garden hose.
works well but will cause your belts to squeak. sqeaky clean I guess.

works well for inside fender wells, wheels etc. an advantage is you can throttle how hard you spray as to not cause damage that a pressure washer could.

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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I recently tried washing down, carefully, I thought, at a car wash using the light spray. Ended up getting alternator internals wet and had to replace. Must not have been as careful as I thought.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 02:26 PM
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sounds to me you just discovered a week link. one would have to spray hard and direct on alternator to take it out I believe. under hood is no stranger to moisture (rain). spark plug wires and cap can cause a little grief and I always bag the air cleaner.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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Im in the middle of detailing and painting my engine bay....hoping someone chimes in on this!
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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just a wild thought, maybe you can try one of those hand-held steamers, it would probably take longer than you would like, but you would have more control on what you are cleaning and wouldn't have to worry so much about the electrical parts like in full blown cleaning.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 09:39 AM
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Stop by your favorite used car dealership or detailing outfit and ask how they clean under the hood. Ask them what they'll charge to do your car.

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Originally Posted by SSROADSTER
just a wild thought, maybe you can try one of those hand-held steamers, it would probably take longer than you would like
if he did that with that "weak" steamer it might take him a "week"..... Sorry, just had to do it
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 09:52 AM
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Directing a spray of hot high pressure water at underhood components is a recipe for disaster. This will force water into places it would never otherwise go.
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High pressure and soap or steam should never be used on wiring, hoses,around seals ans bearings. That application should be limited to bare products.
Case; I have extensive experience with cleaning agricultural equipment, limiting the hot water or steam decreased the expense of bearing, seal and electrical components by about 70%. I use a combo of dish washer soap and the siphon spray on my car, again I don't directly spray the above components directly, just "dust" by.
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Originally Posted by AirborneSilva
if he did that with that "weak" steamer it might take him a "week"..... Sorry, just had to do it
Lol...I hear you there might even take longer than that......but with the weak steamer you can do a small
section at a time so it may take a few months or longer what does time matter when your having fun!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by SSROADSTER
what does time matter when your having fun!!!!!!
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 10:09 AM
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the issue with the steam, and I've used it, it works well, is that it melts rubber/plastic parts
the issue with pressure washers, and I've used them , they work well, has already been stated.
I prefer the pressure washer after letting the engine bay soak in grease remover, usually applied twice.
remove your alternator, air cleaner, get a coffee can and cover the carb throat, plan on pulling your distributor cap to let it dry out , plan on getting dirty , it splatters ...everywhere. have fun, you'll enjoy working on you re engine and not getting as dirty afterward
btw let it get good and dry afterward
btw to the btw. the folks that suggest not using either, are right. the only advantage is quickness.

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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by oldalaskaman
the issue with the steam, and I've used it, it works well, is that it melts rubber/plastic parts
the issue with pressure washers, and I've used them , they work well, has already been stated.
I prefer the pressure washer after letting the engine bay soak in grease remover, usually applied twice.
remove your alternator, air cleaner, get a coffee can and cover the carb throat, plan on pulling your distributor cap to let it dry out , plan on getting dirty , it splatters ...everywhere. have fun, you'll enjoy working on you re engine and not getting as dirty afterward
btw let it get good and dry afterward
btw to the btw. the folks that suggest not using either, are right. the only advantage is quickness.
I'll agree with most of that.

I pressure clean every old car I get, first thing, makes it so much easier to work on. Never had problems using steam cleaner or pressure washer. I even have a separate 4" long gun for getting into tight spots.
Here are some pics of a typical 30+ year old car that has never been cleaned or redone. Complete undercarriage is as funky as the motor and the only sensible way is with a power washer of some type.
BTW, there was no damage to alt, carb, dist or any other part from power washing.





After cleaning



And some painting

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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 04:24 PM
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I only use a pressure washer to clean an engine up before I want to rip it apart or out, so I don't get dirty. Otherwise, I try not too. I really don't like the job.
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The first thing I did when I bought my present C3 was to take it to a shop that did steam cleaning. They gave me a price and I told them that was fine IF I could talk to the guy doing the work first. I let him know that I wanted all the collected road grime, grease, and gunk cleaned off the entire undercarriage and the engine cleaned without putting high pressure or excessive force on electrical wiring or electrical components.

He did a fine job. No damage was done, and when I went to detail the underside, I didn't have to do much but mask and paint. What was left on the engine/engine compartment I could spray with Gunk cleaner and shoot off at the quarter car wash. All the engine accessories were eventually removed, disassembled, well cleaned, rebuilt, repainted and reinstalled. The wiring and hoses were cleaned with lacquer thinner (by hand) and coated with Nu-Vinyl to make them look like new.

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If I were to protect the vitals and spray down my engine compartment with a degreaser, let it sit, then rinse off with a hose, would the runoff make a mess of my driveway and not be suitable for the storm drain?
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Old Nov 23, 2012 | 09:27 PM
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You can't beat a steam cleaner for old grime and gunk. I've been involved with a bunch of cars we've steam cleaned and I can't recall melting any connectors. I guess maybe if you stood there and held the wand directly onto a part. Obviously you want to be descreet around critical parts like the distributor, alternator and certain wires. The more you can let it dry out before starting/using, the better. Assume you'll have to remove/dry the distributor cap.

Truck and Diesel repair facilities usually have steam cleaners standing ready. I bet if you drove up to the back door in your semi-dirty clothes, they might just let you use theirs for a few minutes and you can do it yourself ...for some doughnut money.

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I think letting a 'rookie' handle high pressure steam is probably not a good idea....
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Originally Posted by PRNDL
...would the runoff make a mess of my driveway...
Yes. You're going to get road gook, oil suspended in water, and the detergents of the cleaner in the run off.

...and not be suitable for the storm drain?...
Depends on what can or cannot go in to a storm drain and whether the Storm Drain Police are in the neighborhood at the time you squirt it.

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