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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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This is not my info, I am only repeating internet lore but I have tried it and it does work very well.

"Recently "Machinist Workshop Magazine" did a test on penetrating oils using nuts and bolts that they `scientifically rusted' to a uniform degree by soaking in salt water. They then tested the break-out torque required to loosen the nuts. They treated the nuts with a variety of penetrants and measured the torque required to loosen them. This is what they came up with:

Nothing = 516 lbs
WD-40 = 238 lbs
PB Blaster = 214 lbs
Liquid Wrench = 127 lbs
Kano Kroil = 106 lbs
ATF/Acetone mix (50/50) = 50 lbs."

The "shop brew" of 50% automatic transmission fluid and 50% acetone
beat out the commercially prepared products costing far more.
Mix only what you need as it weakens over time.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:43 AM
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I posted the same info a couple of weeks ago. Still haven't had the opportunity to try the ATF/acetone mix.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:59 AM
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I didn't see the post from a few weeks ago but I believe it will work. I have always heard good things about using ATF to loosen engines that have been sitting. Just put a little in the spark plug hole to loosen up the rings so why wouldn't it work on rusty nuts. (Rusty nuts is not a type of VD haha)

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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Thanks for the info. I'll have to give it a try.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 01:26 PM
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A little kerosene in that mix will keep it from evaporating so fast and might work better.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 01:49 PM
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I read the earlier post, and tried it over the holiday. The ATF/Acetone mix works very well. I had the nuts on the steering linkage brake free with very little effort and in some cases once they were broke loose I could spin them off with my fingers. I was surprized how well it worked and that more people don't know about it.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 02:09 PM
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ATF also has another use.... when your hands are real greasy, pour some on them and and wring them together. Gets the grease off and you will only need soap and water for the rest.
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I'd like to see someone test just Automatic Transmission Fluid. I always have that around but I never have Acetone.
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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I mean, how much does a can of Kroil or WD40 cost ...and how long does a can sit around the shop? Not like it's going to break a restoration budget.
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I tried this today and the ATF and acetone didn't mix, the acetone floated on top of the ATF. I tried mixing ATF with ethyl acohol and that didn't mix either. Then tried it with reducer for a solvent based paint and that did mix. I suspect it would mix with gasoline too. I don't think an emulsion of acetone/atf will soak in as well as atf and something it does dissolve in as with the acetone the atf isn't thinned out at all, at best if you shake it you have seperate bubbles of acetone and seperate bubbles of unthinned ATF, it won't soak in any better than just ATF by itself and will probably be worse because the acetone being thinner will soak in first and prevent the atf from contacting the area where the acetone is.
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Originally Posted by 540 vette
ATF also has another use.... when your hands are real greasy, pour some on them and and wring them together. Gets the grease off and you will only need soap and water for the rest.
Remind me of the story of a friend's coworker who discovered the trick.
Worked so well he started bringing ATF back home and used when taking shower.
A couple years later my friend heard the guy died from blood cancer.
So use it at your own risk.
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ATF + Acetone + Kerosene = Ed's Red.

Awesome for cleaning and protecting firearms.

I though about using some on my vette to loosen the seatbelt bolts but then realized I didnt need it because it was bolted onto carpet. The floor pan was gone in that section.
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Originally Posted by drkness01
ATF + Acetone + Kerosene = Ed's Red.

Awesome for cleaning and protecting firearms.

I though about using some on my vette to loosen the seatbelt bolts but then realized I didnt need it because it was bolted onto carpet. The floor pan was gone in that section.
You forgot that Ed's Red is 25% mineral spirits too. I've used this mix on guns for 40+ years.. Just don't get it on the wood.
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Old Jul 7, 2014 | 08:48 PM
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Liquid wrench has always been my go to but Ive used the shop brew and it is much better. Ill mix up for the worst jobs, still use liquid wrench on less dire circumstances.
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