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Old Jan 18, 2013 | 10:34 PM
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I have replaced my master cylinder and have been trying to bleed my brakes for the last hour and they are terrible. My wife is helping me so now I'm yelling at her at no fault to her. I'm using a Mighty-Vac and the rears are fine as it pulls the fluid through the rear master cylinder but I think it's the fronts giving me the trouble. I'm getting very little fluid to come through on the fronts and it's barely using any out of the front of the master cylinder. I now even have a brake light on in the cluster. I did bench bleed the master but not very well. Please help I don't know what I'm missing. Also I tried having the wife push on the brakes bleeding that way and got very little fluid to come through any of the calipers??? This is on my 82 by the way.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:41 AM
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I've been researching bleeding brakes to prep for work on my car. Hopefully this thread that discusses the proportional valve will be of some help:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ake-bleed.html

I found this one had some great information as well:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...fo-please.html

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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:05 AM
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Both very good articles. I took off the master cylinder again and going to bench bleed it again. Then I'm going to buy the Power Brake Bleeder from Motive Products and try that. The brake system worked perfectly before I removed the MC, I replaced it for looks along with the booster.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 08:50 AM
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There may be other issues as well but save yourself and the wife the aggrivation by installing speed bleeders on the calipers. They take the second person out of the bleeding chore and make the entire process so much simpler. The are cheap and the work... a rare combination !
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Default get (or make your own) a pressure bleeder...

Bunches of ideas below. One of the best things I've done. Makes bleeding a lot easier. I used to dread having to do it and now I only dread the time of having to remove the wheels.

I made my own because I didn't want to order and wait for one.

I made mine out of garden sprayer and use and aluminum plate and a c-clamp with a rubber gasked to seal the master cylinder. I planned to order a real one later, but it works so fine that don't need to order one. I use a pressure gauge on the tygon line to keep the pressure between 10 psig - 20 psig.

See the thread below:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...-0105-kit.html

There's a cool idea in that thread about using a shop vac to draw the brake fluid out via the calipers.....might want to try that (just make sure you don't let the master cylinder run dry).

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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Bingo....
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by crossfire1982
There may be other issues as well but save yourself and the wife the aggrivation by installing speed bleeders on the calipers. They take the second person out of the bleeding chore and make the entire process so much simpler. The are cheap and the work... a rare combination !
Are the speed bleeders universal or are they by application? Where can I get them?
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Never mind, found them on line.
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Originally Posted by alconk
Bingo....
Be sure to get the newer model with the aluminum plate and not the plastic plate. Also using C clamps or Screw Clamps are easier to use than the chains.
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Another vote for the Motive Bleeder. I've never had a better brake pedal than after buying one of those. Definitely worth the money.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 02:48 PM
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Another vote for the Motive Bleeder. I've never had a better brake pedal than after buying one of those. Definitely worth the money.


Best $60 i've spent on my restoration project was the Motive.

Could probably build one for cheaper since it isn't that complicated.
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Old Jan 19, 2013 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by C6DuffMan
Be sure to get the newer model with the aluminum plate and not the plastic plate. Also using C clamps or Screw Clamps are easier to use than the chains.
Well do you have the part #? All I'm finding is the one with the plastic plate.
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Originally Posted by alconk
Well do you have the part #? All I'm finding is the one with the plastic plate.
I believe it's this one. I don't think it's a different part number, it's just a newer design.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mv...s/?prefilter=1
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Thank you! It's been ordered.
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Looks like a worthwhile investment.
How do you use it?
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Originally Posted by alconk
I did bench bleed the master but not very well.
Do it again and do it right. Then do it some more.

Then get yourself a Motive.


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Looks like a worthwhile investment.
How do you use it?
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You attach the plate to the top of the master cylinder and secure it until it seals. Brake fluid is poured into the resevoir and it is pumped up to 10-12 psi. Then you basically crack the bleeder on the calipers until you get clean fluid and no bubbles. Super easy and it works great.

OP. Bleeding order is the following:

Rear passenger (inboard bleeder then outboard bleeder)
Rear Driver (inboard bleeder then outboard bleeder)
Front Passenger
Front Driver


Good Luck. Do it in that order, re-bleed your Master and you're brakes will be great.
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Old Jan 20, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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Chinaski,
thanks seems super easy.
I need to get me one of them there bleeding devices
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Originally Posted by Chinaski
Do it again and do it right. Then do it some more.

Then get yourself a Motive.


Yes I re-bled the master cylinder last night and did have alot of air in there. I'm now waiting on my Motive and speed bleeders from Summit.
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