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Old Feb 2, 2013 | 03:33 PM
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Can you get an auxillary hardtop for a roadster that did not come with one from the factory? If so, does it go on without modifying the vehicle at all?
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Oh thank you! An answer I like to hear. No modification to the body of the car.

Now if you remove the pin (I assume this was for better securing the top) what keeps the top on in place? I am not a tech expert. I can just drive!

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You'll need to drill two holes in the deck lid for the two bolts that secure the top. It would probably be a good idea to drill a third hole too if the top comes with the third center fastener. All the hardware to do this is available from the Corvette suppliers.
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You'll need to drill two holes in the deck lid for the two bolts that secure the top. It would probably be a good idea to drill a third hole too if the top comes with the third center fastener. All the hardware to do this is available from the Corvette suppliers.
I was hoping no drilling was needed. Gosh dern it!!!!!!!!! I just wanted to know if somehow a top can get on and secure it without modifying the body. O well!!!!!!!!!!
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Hi tbv,
I think the hardtop is such a desirable addition to a convertible that the work required to mount it properly on the car would be worth it.
Maybe?
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I was hoping no drilling was needed. Gosh dern it!!!!!!!!! I just wanted to know if somehow a top can get on and secure it without modifying the body. O well!!!!!!!!!!
In MHO the two rear pins (convertable mounts) and the three windshield clamps are sufficient, especially to find out if you like the top or not. If I were to use the top quite a bit, I may consider a more permanent attachment. As previously mentioned, the third pin hole (middle of rear deck) wasn't used until, I believe, late '69 or so. There will probably be a slight gap if not used. If the top you obtain has a third mount, it can be removed easily. No big deal. The 2 holes a poster mentioned that need to be drilled are located on either inner side of the forward portion of the deck lid. These are more for insurance that the top will stay on, but, in my opinion, not mandatory. The bolts shown in Paul's post are the proper way to mount the top, but I personally use the convertible pins off the soft top, the three windshield latches, recently the two side bolts and have had no problem. Have a great weekend, Bill
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Hi tbv,
I think the hardtop is such a desirable addition to a convertible that the work required to mount it properly on the car would be worth it.
Maybe?
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Hi Alan and the rest...
I am looking at a pedigree chrome bumper and the tank sticker doesn't have the auxillary top on the form. If I were to get this one I would hate to start drilling holes where they weren't intended. I just wanted to know if one could be added without changing anything to the corvette. It does appear it can be. If I do end up with it I will certainly let you know.
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The bolts shown in Paul's post are the proper way to mount the top, but I personally use the convertible pins off the soft top, the three windshield latches, recently the two side bolts and have had no problem. Have a great weekend, Bill
Where is Paul's post to I can see the bolts? Is there a link to the thread? Thanks!
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Maybe this photo will help. Look to the right of the driver's headrest, you'll see the "nuts" that accept the top hold down bolts. The piece you see in the photo is a bolt that is secured by a nut behind the panel. The female hole you see is threaded. The top has small tabs in the forward side just behind the window opening. For a more finished appearance you can leave the stainless top hold down bolts in place with the top off - they are nicely finished stainless. In the photo, the bolts are not installed; I keep them with the top.



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Where is Paul's post to I can see the bolts? Is there a link to the thread? Thanks!
I'd like to know that myself! He (Paul74) had posted pics of the rear mounting pins (actually bolts with the special washers for mounting the top thru the convertible pin holes in the deck). I've seen the post somewhere and thought it was in your thread. NOT!!! I've used the search function and no luck. It's somewhere in this forum. Have a great "Great Game" day, Bill.
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Originally Posted by theblackvette
Can you get an auxillary hardtop for a roadster that did not come with one from the factory?
Yes. There was an optional factory hardtop for the convertible models.

If so, does it go on without modifying the vehicle at all?
Yes. The exception will be setting your door glasses to seal against the hardtop weatherstripping, then setting your folding weatherstripping against the door glasses. The weatherstripping on the hard top is not adjustable.

The assembly instruction manual (AIM) for any model year when the convertible was available will show the top and how it installs.

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Where is Paul's post to I can see the bolts? Is there a link to the thread? Thanks!
Sorry about that! The bolt and retainer are stock. The long cushion on the bolt shaft is plastic tubing and the black rubber washer at the bezel is from a plumbing store. These will serve to minimize movement. The silver retainer grabs the bottom of the bezel pin release mechanism and is snugged up with the hex nut and lock washer.






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Maybe this photo will help. Look to the right of the driver's headrest, you'll see the "nuts" that accept the top hold down bolts. The piece you see in the photo is a bolt that is secured by a nut behind the panel. The female hole you see is threaded. The top has small tabs in the forward side just behind the window opening. For a more finished appearance you can leave the stainless top hold down bolts in place with the top off - they are nicely finished stainless. In the photo, the bolts are not installed; I keep them with the top.



I hope this helps


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Great pic. Thanks. I just ordered those parts. So you just drill a hole (correct diameter of course) in the side of the rear deck and insert the threaded female plug fastened by a nut on the other side. Then the hex head bolt locks the top on at those points. Looks pretty simple (famous last words!). This is going to be a real treat project in April. But I will do it.
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Great pic. Thanks. I just ordered those parts. So you just drill a hole (correct diameter of course) in the side of the rear deck and insert the threaded female plug fastened by a nut on the other side. Then the hex head bolt locks the top on at those points. Looks pretty simple (famous last words!). This is going to be a real treat project in April. But I will do it.
Paul: Thanks! You are correct, you have to drill those two holes, and insert the threaded female plug in the holes.

If you have a soft top folded in addition to the hard top, you really have to open the deck lid with the hard top on it to be able to install those special square "washers" with the folded edges and the lock washers and nuts to secure the top to the deck. Those side bolts we're talking about make the top much more stable when you open the deck. I have a 2X4 piece of lumber with notches cut into both ends that I use between the windshield frame and the front of the top to hold it open while I'm securing everything. I recommend having a helper to keep the brace in place so the top doesn't come crashing down on the your back or head. That would be .


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Paul: Thanks! You are correct, you have to drill those two holes, and insert the threaded female plug in the holes.

If you have a soft top folded in addition to the hard top, you really have to open the deck lid with the hard top on it to be able to install those special square "washers" with the folded edges and the lock washers and nuts to secure the top to the deck. Those side bolts we're talking about make the top much more stable when you open the deck. I have a 2X4 piece of lumber with notches cut into both ends that I use between the windshield frame and the front of the top to hold it open while I'm securing everything. I recommend having a helper to keep the brace in place so the top doesn't come crashing down on the your back or head. That would be .


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Many thanks. I appreciate the comments. I have been communicating with an old Corvette friend and he had similar advice. He has had some 30 C2/C3s over the years and I respect his opinions. He will be reading this and may kick in. He did make a comment about using large flat washers with glued on fastening nuts rather than the stock "grab" brackets underneath. They would be easier to install I believe. Sounds like a good idea and a cheap Home Depot solution.

Sometimes I wonder why I even got into this hardtop thing. Except I wanted one. Everyone loves a challenge. And when they are on they sure do look good! And then you take it off for the summer. The funny thing is that it has no value when you sell. But these cars are a hobby, not investments. As I posted earlier today for the young lady with her 1973 BB, $20,000 is a bargain.

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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
Paul: Thanks! You are correct, you have to drill those two holes, and insert the threaded female plug in the holes.

If you have a soft top folded in addition to the hard top, you really have to open the deck lid with the hard top on it to be able to install those special square "washers" with the folded edges and the lock washers and nuts to secure the top to the deck. Those side bolts we're talking about make the top much more stable when you open the deck. I have a 2X4 piece of lumber with notches cut into both ends that I use between the windshield frame and the front of the top to hold it open while I'm securing everything. I recommend having a helper to keep the brace in place so the top doesn't come crashing down on the your back or head. That would be .


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Great thread as I too am adding a hardtop
Pete why do you have to open deck lid with hardtop on for rear
pin hardware? Seems like there is room to attach the 2 rear pin plate and nuts
that go in convertible pin holes
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Originally Posted by scf100
Great thread as I too am adding a hardtop
Pete why do you have to open deck lid with hardtop on for rear
pin hardware? Seems like there is room to attach the 2 rear pin plate and nuts
that go in convertible pin holes
If you remove the folding top there is plenty of room to access the nuts/washers that secure the hardtop. But if the soft top is on the car and folded, there is very little room in there - I suppose if a person likes to reach into tight places to work, raising the top/deck wouldn't be the first choice.

I agree with a lot of you guys, the cars look really with the hard tops on them, but installing & removing the hardtop gets to be a real PITA. I prefer to leave the hardtop in the closet.


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Well since I am the OP I thought I would chime in.

I may be ending up with a 1969 corvette. It is a roadster and the seller
added an auxillary top. I asked him if he had to drill holes in the body. He said he did not and it fits into the soft top holdings (whatever they call it) and attaches in the front like the soft top would.

Hopefully, I pull the trigger on this one. Waiting patiently now.
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