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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:03 PM
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For the first time this year I turned on my headlights, when I did the right side came up very slowly, the left didn't move. They worked last fall when I put it away.
1) How much vacuum should there be at the main vacuum line that connects to the reservoir pipe? This is the line coming from the "Y" splitter.
2) how much vacuum should there be at the lines that connect to the front & back of the actuators?
I obviously have low vacuum, but need vto find out where I'm losing it.
Any help would be great.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:16 PM
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Some good references to checking the vac-system here
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...tem-works.html

Includes some troubleshooting steps.
Chances are your vacuum system is still making the proper vacuum and you've lost a seal or split a line
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mooser
Chances are your vacuum system is still making the proper vacuum and you've lost a seal or split a line
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But what is the vacuum supposed to be?
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:27 PM
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Your engine vacuum didn't change over the winter, but your vacuum components probably did. Smart money would be leaky relays, especially if they are original, and leaky actuators.
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by toolman0114
But what is the vacuum supposed to be?
It's running off your engine so it "should" be in the 18-20 range, minus a few inches for loss in the system so around 15"

That being said, mine only runs about 15-16 at idle and they work fine (a little slower) so they are down around the 12-13: range.

I've seen people say they (headlights) will run down to 10-11" but I've never seen that personally
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Old Jun 5, 2013 | 10:09 PM
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all components were new 4-5 years ago
I am going to test the vacuum at the intake
then test the check valve
then vacuum at the reservoir
then into the relays
then out of the relays
then finally at the actuators.
that should cover it.
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Your engine vacuum didn't change over the winter, but your vacuum components probably did. Smart money would be leaky relays, especially if they are original, and leaky actuators.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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I found one of my actuator canister might be bypassing.
When I close the headlights the red hose sucks at the back of the canister, but I get suction through the front (green) hose connector.
Is this right? Or is it junk?
What is happening is I turn on the headlights and the left headlight comes up, but I lose all vacuum to the hose feeding the right relay coming off the reservoir.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 01:43 PM
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If the seal on the front (shaft) is leaking, it will prevent the headlight from getting pulled up. Disconnect the rear hose and Pinch off the front hose and raise/lower the headlight manually. If it moves (easily) it's sucking air in through the shaft seal.
Fairly easy fix
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-g...new-seals.html

Check the main diaphragm (inside the can) by disconnecting the front hose and pinching off the hose coming out the rear (engine side) of the actuator. Then manually lower (or raise) the headlight.
If the seal is good it will prevent (resist) the piston from moving either way.
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Old Jun 7, 2013 | 04:34 PM
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Vacuum goes into the rear (engine side) actuator port, vacuum is coming out the front port.
Hold finger over rear port, can pull the rod out with little resistance.
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Originally Posted by toolman0114
Vacuum goes into the rear (engine side) actuator port, vacuum is coming out the front port.
Hold finger over rear port, can pull the rod out with little resistance.
If you can pull the actuating rod out of the actuator with the rear port blocked, I'm sorry to report that your actuator is toast, a little on the burnt side.
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Just to hijack this thread a bit:

What color "should" the actuators be?
The new ones are a gold color....what was the original metal color?

Now back to your regularly scheduled posting......
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Originally Posted by Dave J
If you can pull the actuating rod out of the actuator with the rear port blocked, I'm sorry to report that your actuator is toast, a little on the burnt side.
We always tell people to test from the rear of the actuator first. If you can't hold vacuum on the rear port then the diaphragm between the front and rear is bad.

If it holds on the rear, and not on the front then the front rod seal is leaking.

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Ok, I'm back, still have a problem
I got a new actuator, hooked up the red (as per diagram above) vacuum line with the rod already pulled in (headlight closed) but am getting vacuum from the green port. This tells me the actuator is bypassing internally, am I correct? I believe this should not leak. When I plug the red port with my finger it is very hard to pull out the rod, that says no leak.
So what gives? Could it be a small leak the opens when vacuum is applied?
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Ok, I returned the 2nd new actuator that was sucking through the green port when vacuum was applied to the red port. The guy said I must have a vacuum leak someplace, I said @yea, the new actuator" he gave me another one from a different supplier, and it works. He must have gotten a shipment from a bad run.
Vacuum applied to red port, NO sucking through the green, go figure
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