How to value a legit complete date-coded 1969 ZL-1 engine?
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How to value a legit complete date-coded 1969 ZL-1 engine?
Not a basket case or non-runner or missing parts or incorrect parts example. The real deal.
Is there even a projectable market $$ value for one?
Is there even a projectable market $$ value for one?
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Date coded engine...where's the car? Is it a date coded piece part replacement from GM piece parts? I once, in 1974, built a L88 engine from GM piece parts. Except for the cylinder heads, I don't think it would be that valuable today. The L88 had a cast iron block. For your engine, if it's the real deal, its really valuable..
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Seriously, without knowing all the details about the engine, it's darn near impossible to accurately attempt to put a value on it.
To answer the question in part, yes, there is a market for it... It is a very small market though.
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If it was an original motor and the car is still around and you found the motor, could be worth a TON, also be worth a decent amount for those "cloning" a car or someone who wanted a motor for their car in case their motor got destroyed, but again it would never be an "original" motor for a Corvette unless came from a Corvette and you found the car.
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2024 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
$39,995
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1968-1969-Camaro-427-ZL-1-Engine-complete-/330906522429?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0b90d33d&vxp=mtr
I was thinking around $30k
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1968-1969-Camaro-427-ZL-1-Engine-complete-/330906522429?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4d0b90d33d&vxp=mtr
I was thinking around $30k
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Humm....A Camaro motor I'm sure, only 69 made(plus the 2 vettes) so 71...I'd say ask or pay as much as you want, but I'd play the Camaro boys, It's way easier to make a ZL1 Camaro than Corvette. FWIW 25 to 28k is in the ball park I would think.
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Sorry for my brief absence offline and neglect of my own thread. It was unanticipated.
Thanks for the responses. There are two ZL-1 engines that I'm trying to pry loose from someone who has owned them for a very long time. One is allegedly one of the supposed 5 others shipped from Tonawanda to St. Louis. The other is out of a Camaro ZL-1 that had an untimely demise.
Based on the reissued ZL-1s a few years ago at $20,000, my thoughts were in the $30,000 range. With a reluctant buyer, that number could be a good bit higher.
Ultimately, I'm trying to determine the cost of building a tribute or resto-mod from a L36-based '69 that's complete and clean, but sans drivetrain. And to compare that cost with the white/red stripe clone that was already built not long ago.
Thanks for the responses. There are two ZL-1 engines that I'm trying to pry loose from someone who has owned them for a very long time. One is allegedly one of the supposed 5 others shipped from Tonawanda to St. Louis. The other is out of a Camaro ZL-1 that had an untimely demise.
Based on the reissued ZL-1s a few years ago at $20,000, my thoughts were in the $30,000 range. With a reluctant buyer, that number could be a good bit higher.
Ultimately, I'm trying to determine the cost of building a tribute or resto-mod from a L36-based '69 that's complete and clean, but sans drivetrain. And to compare that cost with the white/red stripe clone that was already built not long ago.
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I'm not even at the point of any sort of documentation yet. I'm just trying to value the engines so I can make an offer that will get his attention enough to consider providing more information.
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The premise for my value question automatically presumes I would verify documentation of authenticity before dropping any cash. But these aren't even for sale. The first step is contingent valuation for me to make an offer he might listen to.
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My information indicates there were a total of 94 ZL-1 engines coded for Corvette usage from the Tonawanda plant; 80 coded for use with manual transmissions and 14 coded for pairing with automatics.
(Along with 90 ZL-1 engines coded for Camaros, including the 69 production COPO 9560s; and a best estimate of 52 Can Am ZL-1 blocks.)
Anyone want to elaborate?
(Along with 90 ZL-1 engines coded for Camaros, including the 69 production COPO 9560s; and a best estimate of 52 Can Am ZL-1 blocks.)
Anyone want to elaborate?
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Don't say the guys name, but is he from PA. If so, I saw with my own eyes 2 COPA Camaros in his garage. I traded parts with him 20 years ago, he wanted a set of Rally's and I needed a BBC alternator bracket.
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Ask if the crank is a 6223 or a 7115 casting.
I've seen a website with dozens of photos of an engine built with all NOS components. Heartbeatcity sounds familiar. I'll keep looking.
This may be it: http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/s...-T0318MN-1969/
Only 25,000 for this one. I wonder why.
Here is the website I found. All the photos are gone and it's heartbeatcity.net rather than heartbeatcitycamaro.com
http://www.heartbeatcity.net/forsale...ssram-ZL1.html
I've seen a website with dozens of photos of an engine built with all NOS components. Heartbeatcity sounds familiar. I'll keep looking.
This may be it: http://www.heartbeatcitycamaro.com/s...-T0318MN-1969/
Only 25,000 for this one. I wonder why.
Here is the website I found. All the photos are gone and it's heartbeatcity.net rather than heartbeatcitycamaro.com
http://www.heartbeatcity.net/forsale...ssram-ZL1.html
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