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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 11:07 PM
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I am kind of digging the BBCorv is suggesting!
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnieP73

I know this works because that is what I did. You can get the metal too clean and POR-15 will not bond. Just remove all the loose rust is all that is needed. Not as neat as Alan's, but looks good enough for me.

This was with a buffer and wire wheel brushes.

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That's pretty impressive my friend!
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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I am kind of digging the BBCorv is suggesting!
One note. As others have commented, POR-15 prefers rough surfaces to adhere to. I've heard of case where POR-15 has peeled off clean metal which was too smooth. If the metal is smooth, clean, I've heard of others using epoxy primer. I've been using the silver primer supplied by the manufacturer I posted the link to. It has worked well for me on the rocker channels and seat braces, both still look good. I can't say as much for the parts done with chassis paint twenty years ago.

If you were to take the body off or a least lift it a foot or two, I'd suggest replacing the fuel lines with stainless. Take a look at the condition of the rocker channels, treat if necessary.

Either way, frame off or body on, your choice.
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnieP73

I know this works because that is what I did. You can get the metal too clean and POR-15 will not bond. Just remove all the loose rust is all that is needed. Not as neat as Alan's, but looks good enough for me.

This was with a buffer and wire wheel brushes.

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Digging that Donnie!
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 11:44 PM
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Well guys I have loved all the input and have much to consider at this point and will make a decision probably tomorrow.
Thank you all for everything. If some of you aren't flowing my rebuild thread, here is the link and would really appreciate all of you helping me through this winter project ( if you dont mind we will move back over there)you all are the best and with your help I will be driving this baby in no time! Oh! Your motivation regularly will also be much appreciated!!!
https://www.corvetteforum.com/c3-gen...-1973-a-7.html

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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DonnieP73

I know this works because that is what I did. You can get the metal too clean and POR-15 will not bond. Just remove all the loose rust is all that is needed. Not as neat as Alan's, but looks good enough for me.

This was with a buffer and wire wheel brushes.

Donnie
I've been using a wire wheel and drill, body on this time around. Out of curiousity, did you do the trailing arm pockets?
What was the buffer used for?
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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Holy crap batman!

That looks clean enought to eat off of, I can hardly believe my eyes.

Are you afraid to drive that thing?
Did you see his shop floor? My dinner table isnt that clean !The man does things RIGHT !
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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I have pulled the body on my 73 project by myself. Its no big deal if you take your time and make sure everything is disconnected. I stripped my frame completely and sandblasted made the necessary repairs and started putting it back together. Restoring the car is a lot easier with the body off. Its been two years to get to this point and I get the cat back from the body shop today. Will be starting on the interior, trim and lights tomorrow.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by BBCorv70
I've been using a wire wheel and drill, body on this time around. Out of curiousity, did you do the trailing arm pockets?
What was the buffer used for?
Yes, I cleaned and POR everything. In the trailing arm pockets, I used a drill with wire brushes and even sand paper. The buffer (grinder) was a 4 1/2" Black and Decker 10,000 RPM with wire buffing wheels. It took time, but I cleaned and painted everything except the very top of the frame rail along the doors.
I could reach every other part of the frame because the engine, transmission, a-arms, trailing arms and gas tank were all removed.


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Originally Posted by DonnieP73
Yes, I cleaned and POR everything. In the trailing arm pockets, I used a drill with wire brushes and even sand paper. The buffer (grinder) was a 4 1/2" Black and Decker 10,000 RPM with wire buffing wheels. It took time, but I cleaned and painted everything except the very top of the frame rail along the doors.
I could reach every other part of the frame because the engine, transmission, a-arms, trailing arms and gas tank were all removed.


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The parts of the frame you can't reach to wire brush and paint you could spray with a rust preventative like Waxoyl. Just repeat once a year and no worries.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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I just recently finished doing this on my 70.

I used the red scotchbrite pads that fit in a drill to clean my frame up. For the really tough stuff I used the black 3M stripper pad that fits in a drill. It took about 10 pads to do my frame. They did leave some very very slight scratches in the frame that are almost undetectable once painted. B e careful and let the pads do the work. Use a mask and safety glasses.

I don't want or need a photo bucket account or I would post pics of my frame. I can email the pics.

It came out beautiful. Nowhere near what Alan has done but very nice none the less. There are areas I could not get to but overall I am very pleased with the results.

I am just starting to reassemble everything. I pulled everything out from the transmission back.

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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 08:15 PM
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If you don't pull the body, you can continue to use your car except for the short periods of time you put it up in the air to clean/paint/refurb particular areas of the underbody. And, you can do that in stages as time allows. So, you won't need to let the car sit unused...at all.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 02:39 AM
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I spent a long time trying to decide if I wanted to pull the body and I am really glad I did. Here are some before and after photos of the frame.



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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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I spent a long time trying to decide if I wanted to pull the body and I am really glad I did. Here are some before and after photos of the frame.



Beautiful!!
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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Depends what you wanna do... spend the next few years taking it apart and then spending twice or 3x or 4x what you wanted to......

Or Drive it an enjoy it!...

If you need to repair the frame for safety issue then by all means pull it.

Or sell this one (let someone else clean it up) and buy someone else finished one you like for half the money and the instant gratification of driving it.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:12 AM
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Thought I would post these pictures of what things look like after the tank was out. If there are areas anyone would like to see or I should check good let me know.







Alarm still hooked up!







Trailing arm

Coating in fender well


If you look closely this looks like a panel of some sort in the rear fender well. Can anyone tell me what it is? It appears to be bolted on but also glassed on too???
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FatCat
If you look closely this looks like a panel of some sort in the rear fender well. Can anyone tell me what it is? It appears to be bolted on but also glassed on too???
Looks like the access cover for the #3 body mount.
Did you pull the kick panels, look at the #2 mounts?
How's the windshield frame?
Overall it doesn't look bad at all, a body on clean up may be all you need.
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Old Sep 27, 2013 | 10:34 AM
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How many body mounts total are there?
Inside kick panels good ( I'll post those )
Haven't pulled TTop trim but a flashlight along the pillar reveals no rust.
Here are the pix in the kick panels and rear panels.
The rubber on these mounts is still soft and not cracked.
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Four body mounts on each side. Two you've found, there's one more just in front of the firewall and another right behind the rear wheel.

The last #2 mount area looks a bit crusty, hard to say from the picture. Not bad, I've seen much worse, but what appears to be a chunk of rust makes me wonder if it fell from inside the windshield frame, indicating you may have a water leak. Looks pretty typical overall.
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Body mount locations for your reference. There is also a body cushion at the front center of the nose.

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