NCRS Regional Flight judging round two
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And that's my point. Correct/incorrect bolts might be worth 1 or 2 points (out of 4500) at most, if a judge even catches them. No owner in his right mind will pay that many dollars per point strictly for judging.
Blaming the NCRS for parts prices is as bogus as blaming them for the commonality of restamped engines. Anybody that knows how the rules work has figured out that an original stamp, or a restamp that fools the judges, is worth the same amount of points as a functioning cigar lighter element.
Blaming the NCRS for parts prices is as bogus as blaming them for the commonality of restamped engines. Anybody that knows how the rules work has figured out that an original stamp, or a restamp that fools the judges, is worth the same amount of points as a functioning cigar lighter element.
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And that's my point. Correct/incorrect bolts might be worth 1 or 2 points (out of 4500) at most, if a judge even catches them. No owner in his right mind will pay that many dollars per point strictly for judging.
Blaming the NCRS for parts prices is as bogus as blaming them for the commonality of restamped engines.
Blaming the NCRS for parts prices is as bogus as blaming them for the commonality of restamped engines.
I was validating your point that it's the owners, not the NCRS that's not necessarily in their right minds!
I'm guilty as charged!
WB
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From: Fl
hey
Congrats on getting where you did!
Hard to do the PV - I was another who passed on the 1st try ...
And I drove the car 300 miles to get to Kissimmee to boot....
anyways ---
the Florida regional is one of the toughest to get a 97% on -
its the one where all the judges with years of judging under their belts, participate in.
I will be there this year getting my 69 435 coupe judged -
good luck!!
Bill
Congrats on getting where you did!
Hard to do the PV - I was another who passed on the 1st try ...
And I drove the car 300 miles to get to Kissimmee to boot....
anyways ---
the Florida regional is one of the toughest to get a 97% on -
its the one where all the judges with years of judging under their belts, participate in.
I will be there this year getting my 69 435 coupe judged -
good luck!!
Bill
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From: Florissant Mo
It take's a minimum of 2 Regionals and a National to get a Duntov.
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Burning Brakes
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I already did pass regional PV at the 2012 kissimmee show. I also drove 240 miles to that regional.
see you in kissimmee. Good luck with the 435
see you in kissimmee. Good luck with the 435
Burning Brakes
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The PV is the tuff nutSee ya at the Nationals in KC. I think you will like the facilitates.
Bill
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Burning Brakes
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A PV is a performance verification. In a nutshell...everything on my 69 was tested based on dealer delivery of the car when new. This included a 20 min road coarse listening for shakes and rattles, acceleration, braking, steering, gauges, door hinges, hood hinges, lights, radio etc. This was about a 2 hour test.
I tried to post a link of the actual test, but the ncrs website is not cooperating right now.
I tried to post a link of the actual test, but the ncrs website is not cooperating right now.
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Hi,
Being part of a PV can be quite a nice job for the Team Leader since part of the road test requires that the car be accelerated to within 90% of the engine's red line.
Since the test is normally done on public roads, AND exceeding the speed limit is NOT required, the test is usually limited to first gear or low range.
But, for some 68-72 cars this is still quite an interesting experience. And, SOME owners are reported to push the limit on occasion.
Regards,
Alan
Being part of a PV can be quite a nice job for the Team Leader since part of the road test requires that the car be accelerated to within 90% of the engine's red line.
Since the test is normally done on public roads, AND exceeding the speed limit is NOT required, the test is usually limited to first gear or low range.
But, for some 68-72 cars this is still quite an interesting experience. And, SOME owners are reported to push the limit on occasion.
Regards,
Alan
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People might not pay that much for points, but they would for correct examples of parts. As has already been noted there is a difference.
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http://www.ncrs.org/shop/index.php?m...roducts_id=248
At PV, everything has to work. Everything does not leave anything out.
Last edited by Easy Mike; Oct 14, 2013 at 09:59 AM.
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Yes Pat is right- but the point was it's not 'the fault of the NCRS' that prices are high. Rare parts for any desirable old car are high, not just Corvettes, not just muscle cars and not just American cars.