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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 03:12 AM
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Not looking to really start a brand argument but anybody have an opinion on these water pumps? These are the short style that I plan to use on my newly acquired 454. Any help is appreciated. Also looking for a pulley kit.

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I don't think a short one will work. I think there is one specifically for Corvettes.
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I don't think a short one will work. I think there is one specifically for Corvettes.
Thanks for the help. I read so many threads where guys were using short water pumps but not one specific for the vette.
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Old Oct 28, 2013 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 91turbo2
Not looking to really start a brand argument but anybody have an opinion on these water pumps? These are the short style that I plan to use on my newly acquired 454. Any help is appreciated. Also looking for a pulley kit.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/su...te?prefilter=1
I'm sure it will work as well as the OEM unit at double the price.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 03:17 AM
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CORVETTES do not use the LONG pump whether its a BB or SB....you can buy the sane pump at any local parts store for about 1/2 the price and no core involved...merely exchange yours if necessary...no freight itherI
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But I believe he was suggesting that neither the short or long water pump would work but only a corvette specific pump.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 91turbo2
...Any help is appreciated. Also looking for a pulley kit...
Use the stock pump, stock pullies, stock fan, clutch and shroud.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 01:16 PM
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i have bought thousands of parts from summit racing,they are a really good quality part,and they back it with their warranty ,cant go wrong buying summit parts.
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It's more money but I would go with this due to the modification of the impeller.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/br...model/corvette
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Originally Posted by 91turbo2
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Any help is appreciated. Also looking for a pulley kit.

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Since the WP in your first post is cast iron, perhaps you're only looking to replace a failed unit? Did you want to add bling (non-OEM associated pieces) "while you're at it" or are you interested in replacement parts only?

If replacing, select an iron WP with the correct dimensions and reuse the pulleys that are there. Many non-OEM pully kits employ a serpentine belt and require each driven component to have the compatible pulley.

Or if retaining the V-belts, many of the non-OEM pulleys are aluminum and should match the dimensions of the original.

Is this going to be a DD, weekend cruiser, or maybe some racing? Are you limited to a budget? Let us know because there are several options you can choose.
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the short pump IS the Corvette specific pump
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Originally Posted by Dustup7T2
Since the WP in your first post is cast iron, perhaps you're only looking to replace a failed unit? Did you want to add bling (non-OEM associated pieces) "while you're at it" or are you interested in replacement parts only?

If replacing, select an iron WP with the correct dimensions and reuse the pulleys that are there. Many non-OEM pully kits employ a serpentine belt and require each driven component to have the compatible pulley.

Or if retaining the V-belts, many of the non-OEM pulleys are aluminum and should match the dimensions of the original.

Is this going to be a DD, weekend cruiser, or maybe some racing? Are you limited to a budget? Let us know because there are several options you can choose.
This will just be a weekend cruiser... Nothing special. The 454 I have was pulled from a truck so it has the long water pump and would need the pulleys and brackets also. As far as I know there is no kit for the vette swap. As you can tell from the pic a little bling would be nice but not necessary.

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Originally Posted by MelWff
It's more money but I would go with this due to the modification of the impeller.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/br...model/corvette
Almost sounds like a "flex fan" style impeller or something similar.
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Originally Posted by qwank
the short pump IS the Corvette specific pump
An above poster said that a short water will not work and it needs to be a corvette specific. Which is it?
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Originally Posted by 91turbo2
...As far as I know there is no kit for the vette swap....
I am not aware of a kit, but the 454 big block was a factory option for the 1974 models. The 1974 assembly instruction manual (AIM) shows the factory installation of the complete big block package, has diagrams, lists the original GM part numbers, etc.

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I've heard two reasons why there's a Corvette specific water pump...you pick which is more accurate...

1) the Corvette pump is the same as the short pump but has a heavy-duty bearing:

2) calling it a "Corvette water pump" rather than short water pump doubles the cost.
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2) is not true. Go into any FLAPS and you'll find it's the same price as any other GM pump.

Most of our SBC pumps were also used on light trucks, so they're not unique to Corvettes.
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CORVETTES do not use the LONG pump whether its a BB or SB....you can buy the sane pump at any local parts store for about 1/2 the price and no core involved...merely exchange yours if necessary...no freight itherI
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Mine is a sbc 350, I bought a new (not rebuilt) at AutoZone for ~$40. Works well.
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The SB "corvette water pump" is approx. 1/8 inch longer than the short pump. Chevy sourced this pump from its trucks because it was designed for greater longevity and for its greater flow and low speed cooling. If you get into a parts catalog you will see that this started in the 60's and continued as smog equipment made cooling more difficult. Many truck pumps for this era will bolt into your Corvette without mods and don't carry the 'Corvette premium' price.
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Great info rotonda. Thanks. So many different opinions on what is actually true that I hope that clears it up.
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