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Old Dec 17, 2013 | 05:32 PM
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Hi,
Just wanted some opinions on the best brand our place for a new starter.
I have a 1978 with a 383 stroker, headers and side pipes. It's hard to crank at times when I've been driving it. I've been told that I have a cheap Autozone type starter in there and it acts as a heat sink being located directly above the pipes.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

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Late model PMGR starter. Don't know if you have the in-line or staggered starter bolts. I have the staggered and used a starter from a '95 Chevy pickup with a 454. Cranks much, much better than the '71 starter and weighs less than half.


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Originally Posted by zwede
Late model PMGR starter. Don't know if you have the in-line or staggered starter bolts. I have the staggered and used a starter from a '95 Chevy pickup with a 454. Cranks much, much better than the '71 starter and weighs less than half.

I appreciate the suggestion. It being made in China does give me pause.
Will do some more research on it.
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Powermaster makes a complete line of ministarters for higher compression engines. I got mine at Summit Racing. It fixed all of my starting problems.

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I installed a Powermaster in my 77. I to solved my cranking problems. No heat soak, faster cranking and lightweight. Bought mine at Summit also.
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Originally Posted by Street Rat
Powermaster makes a complete line of ministarters for higher compression engines. I got mine at Summit Racing. It fixed all of my starting problems.

Pricey but worth it I'm sure.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/pw...te?prefilter=1

I wonder how they compare with Jegs?
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Originally Posted by Den54
I appreciate the suggestion. It being made in China does give me pause.
Will do some more research on it.
No, I'm talking about the original GM starters for late models. It's not aftermarket.
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Originally Posted by zwede
No, I'm talking about the original GM starters for late models. It's not aftermarket.
a stock

this is a smart move, however a heavy duty stock starter will handle most everything and should be available at any parts house.....A bad ground will cause any starter to turn slow....many here think 'heat soak' and 99% are wrong in such a diagnosis.....EVERY THING gets hot under the hood....A strong battery, good battery cables, and a HD stock starter is all that's really needed for any compression run on the street including 12-13 compression

I also know that most of the members here believe in high dollar modified 4 and 6 cylinder imports.....not necessary as it might be as simple as a bad negative ground.......which is more often than not

but whatever, its your money....
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
a stock

this is a smart move, however a heavy duty stock starter will handle most everything and should be available at any parts house.....A bad ground will cause any starter to turn slow....many here think 'heat soak' and 99% are wrong in such a diagnosis.....EVERY THING gets hot under the hood....A strong battery, good battery cables, and a HD stock starter is all that's really needed for any compression run on the street including 12-13 compression

I also know that most of the members here believe in high dollar modified 4 and 6 cylinder imports.....not necessary as it might be as simple as a bad negative ground.......which is more often than not

but whatever, its your money....
Most diffidently going to investigate that first. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
a stock

this is a smart move, however a heavy duty stock starter will handle most everything and should be available at any parts house.....A bad ground will cause any starter to turn slow....many here think 'heat soak' and 99% are wrong in such a diagnosis.....EVERY THING gets hot under the hood....A strong battery, good battery cables, and a HD stock starter is all that's really needed for any compression run on the street including 12-13 compression

I also know that most of the members here believe in high dollar modified 4 and 6 cylinder imports.....not necessary as it might be as simple as a bad negative ground.......which is more often than not

but whatever, its your money....
The mini starters are only better if you have a space issue like running large tube headers etc.
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Old Dec 18, 2013 | 03:54 PM
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I have had my Powermaster for more than 10 years and it has been trouble free.
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I have had hot start/slow cranking problems about every 3-4 years.. then I know it is time for a brand new battery.. get you the biggest/baddest highest cold cranking amp battery you can find.. that will solve your problem.. and of course have the best ground.
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Old Dec 20, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Den54
Hi,
Just wanted some opinions on the best brand our place for a new starter.
I have a 1978 with a 383 stroker, headers and side pipes. It's hard to crank at times when I've been driving it. I've been told that I have a cheap Autozone type starter in there and it acts as a heat sink being located directly above the pipes.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Den
I replaced my stock starter when it failed. I have a Powermaster now.

I thought it made sense since I was going to replace the engine with a higher compression SBC with headers.

It has been working well with good starting power and no heat soak issues. Plus it is at least 20 pounds lighter.

Yes, it costs more but there have been no issues with fitment or performance up until now. JMHO.
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
a stock

this is a smart move, however a heavy duty stock starter will handle most everything and should be available at any parts house.....A bad ground will cause any starter to turn slow....many here think 'heat soak' and 99% are wrong in such a diagnosis.....EVERY THING gets hot under the hood....A strong battery, good battery cables, and a HD stock starter is all that's really needed for any compression run on the street including 12-13 compression

I also know that most of the members here believe in high dollar modified 4 and 6 cylinder imports.....not necessary as it might be as simple as a bad negative ground.......which is more often than not

but whatever, its your money....
Spot on.. I re did the battery terminal ends and fixed some other assorted grounding issues on my 73 and it cranks over awesome ! It used to crank over slowly after it was hot . I always attributed it to heat soak from the headers or timing.. The stock rebuilt starter is a hell of a lot cheaper than any of the high torque replacements..
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General Motors Performance Parts Catalog sells GM mini-starters. They a mini-starter for small blocks and BB's with normal compression ratios. They also sell a mini-starter for 502 and 546 (?) Big Blocks. I have the "normal" ministarter on the ZZ4 and the higher performance ministarter on my 70.

I've lost track of the part numbers, they're in the catalog however. The ministarters are small in name only. They're very powerful, and being much smaller are easier to install.
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