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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 03:43 PM
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Hi guys. Recently I discovered that my numbers matching car is not numbers matching. The car is in good shape, but needs a restoration. It is a 1969 convertible with factory side exhaust and a 350/350. What I discovered is that it does not have the original transmission. It is the correct Muncie, but wrong numbers. My question is this: if I restore the car to a very nice driver that has the numbers matching engine, how much will the fact that the tranny is not numbers matching affect the value in the end. Thanks for any help, Mark
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Hi MMJ,
For me the 'numbers' list extends FAR beyond the engine and transmission.
In your case I think the fact that it's an ORIGINAL side exhaust car makes the car very attractive to many people. I believe the the transmission issue would not have too much effect on what people thought about the car.
I'd still be smiling every time I started it and heard the exhaust!
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks, Alan, that's what I was hoping.
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Hi MMJ,
For me the 'numbers' list extends FAR beyond the engine and transmission.
In your case I think the fact that it's an ORIGINAL side exhaust car makes the car very attractive to many people. I believe the the transmission issue would not have too much effect on what people thought about the car.
I'd still be smiling every time I started it and heard the exhaust!
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Convertible side exhaust car, that sounds very desirable.

Note that the transmission's numbers are not judged for NCRS. So while it may not be numbers matching as far as the transmission goes, this will not take a hit like the stamp pad of the engine. Just an FYI if this is where you were heading.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 05:51 PM
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That's good to know, Pete, thanks. I wonder why they don't check the tranny number? Too hard to see?
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That's good to know, Pete, thanks. I wonder why they don't check the tranny number? Too hard to see?
Yep exactly. They do not jack up the cars or put them on a lift, so you can only judge what you see.
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Old Dec 21, 2013 | 09:39 PM
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Unless you are going to sell it I would not worry about the tranny codes as long as it is a period era transmission. What probably happened along the way over the last 40 years they blew the original tranny and had a remanufactured one installed from a period era transmission. They will only look at the numbers if you attempt to sell it as all original which there are not many left and most were rebuilt over the years.

You can still get a high dollar amount for if you are restoring it to sell it.

Just a thought
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The key to a numbers matching car is the engine. The vast majority of buyers never even consider looking at the trans. I believe it might take a small hit from a handful of buyers, but as long as the engine pad matching the body/title VIN and the pad isnt terribly obviously suspect, you shouldnt have any deduction at all.

And as far as many other numbers, most are "correct/incorrect" not "matching" and are easily replaced and corrected.

And I agree with the others, orig side exhaust roadster, great color = very desireable.
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Great info, thank you.
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