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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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It appears that the bearings are out in the fresh 355 I installed in my '80. It is knocking fiercely. I've don all the troubleshooting I know how to do and that is the conclusion. All that time and money down the drain. I had about 30K miles on it and really enjoyed the power and decent mileage it gave. Now it is a paperweight.

It was a four bolt main 355, steel crank and rods, 10.5 to 1 hypereutectic pistons, freshened L-82 heads, Performer intake with a Lars QJ that has been on it about a week, and Hooker long tubes.

Sickening...
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It appears that the bearings are out in the fresh 355 I installed in my '80. It is knocking fiercely. I've don all the troubleshooting I know how to do and that is the conclusion. All that time and money down the drain. I had about 30K miles on it and really enjoyed the power and decent mileage it gave. Now it is a paperweight.

It was a four bolt main 355, steel crank and rods, 10.5 to 1 hypereutectic pistons, freshened L-82 heads, Performer intake with a Lars QJ that has been on it about a week, and Hooker long tubes.

Sickening...
What kind of cam was in it?
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Sorry to hear about the engine!

The good news is that it STILL knocks.....(it didn't fly apart internally)!

I'm hoping that the damage is limited to replaceable bearings.

Keep us posted.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:14 PM
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Sorry to hear that. Basically, WTF?
I'd move to a new crate.
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:17 PM
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Wow that blows. So you had put 30k miles on it?
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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Put in new bearings yourself and be back on the road
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Old Mar 14, 2014 | 06:35 PM
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Put in new bearings yourself and be back on the road
I agree. Its not that hard and wouldn't cost that much even if you had to have a new crank. On another note I have had a piston skirt to break off and it knocked like hell and i thought it was a bearing until i tore it down. Have seen on autos a torgue convertor bolt come loose and also sound like a bearing.
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I just hate to deal with it at the moment. Life is busy...
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I just hate to deal with it at the moment. Life is busy...
We understand............

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Yea. Something like that happening would drive me towards an LS swap. Wait. It did. Except. Mine was a broken ring land on #4.
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For the moment I'm just tired of spending so much money on the thing. Maybe I need to step back and get a plan. Wait, that is a plan. I need a better plan...
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For the moment I'm just tired of spending so much money on the thing. Maybe I need to step back and get a plan. Wait, that is a plan. I need a better plan...
Your plan seemed good.....but the "gremlins" keep getting in the way!
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Well that bytes on the blown bearings. Have the crank replaced or ground a little deeper and install new mains. Or if you want to spend the bucks go for a 383 Stroker upgrade kit. The crankshaft is a little longer and will give you more torque and HP most 383 Strokers will give you between 300 to 350 HP. I almost bought a 1976 with the 383 Stroker kit installed and he had it dyno the L48 produced 326 HP and close to 300 FT of torque. He showed me the paper work. The only reason I did not buy the car was it would have cost me close to 2000 to get it Emission Legal again.

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Check your flywheel....also check the Torque converter bolts...I have had those become loose and it will sound like a rod knocking.
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Take a little break, then take a run at it. Personally, I would try to work with what you have and perform a QUALITY budget rebuilt.

If you are generally happy with your parts and power, I would think you could get a reputable area engine builder to take care of you.

I would NOT take it to a "machine shop", repair place, or a friend. You need a person that ONLY deals with performance engines. Get yourself a $150 cherry picker, pull it, and have some fun.

Took me 1-1/2 years to get back on the road. I worked within the provided budget and am very happy with the results.
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 08:38 AM
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At this time you are frustrated..all the more reason to kick back, assess the situation, and make a decision based on practical matters, rather than emotional ones.
Good luck..it isn't the end of the world.
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I feel for you, C-J.

Had a very similar issue happen to the current motor in my car. I was lucky to get the car home without further damage. Parked the car in the garage and let it sit for almost 4 months before pulling the package (engine/trans) back out.

Each outcome may be different and I hope that you are as fortunate as I was. The following was my simplified process:

Discovered the #4 main and the #6 rod bearings absorbed the beating. Saved the journals but they were sacrificed in their duty.

After disassembly, inspection, cleaning, and final inspection, I installed new same-size rod and mains along with fresh same-size piston rings. The car was cleaned again and prepped for a fresh installation. Reassembled and installed the engine/trans and has run without issue since.

Oh and after proper break-in, I've run the car not only on the street and in parades, but in several autocross events. Power, performance, and mileage restored. YMMV.

It's a lower-cost option if the damage is salvageable. Good luck.
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That's what I'm hoping. I'll pull it out soon and assess the damage. I hope I caught it before too much harm was done.
Thanks for all the good responses. I appreciate the support and ideas.
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Keep your chin up, crappy time of the year (not that there's ever a good time) for it to happen. Hopefully you don't have to put a second on the house to get back on the road by summer. All the best in your discovery.
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