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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 05:04 PM
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Finally got the wires harnesses ( all new ) connected, After hooking up the battery I began to check the circuits, Lights, small issues..bad bulbs. (tried those super bright bulbs, Too hot, I burned the plastic housing where they connect in the tail light, causing a slight adjustment for refitting a stock bulb.)
Turn signals work great, courtesy light & timer good.
Head lights OK.
A/C heater blower system...Problem Blower motor does not shut off, runs at vary low speed when switch is shut off, even when the blower switch is disconnected it continues to run, in order to get it to stop I have to disconnect brown wire (power) connection under console where it connects to the climate control levers, or disconnect the A/C blower motor Resistor.



It's beagle inspected



Could this be the problem or something else??? IT dose not look bad, but how do you tell??? It dose not seem to be an item to cause the blower motor to run after shutting of switch.

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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 05:08 PM
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Actually Doug, I believe my blower motor always runs in my 79 - mind you very slowly at the low setting. It's always been like that, never thought of it as a problem.
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Old Mar 19, 2014 | 08:55 PM
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Operating per design
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 01:26 AM
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give me a moment to let this sink in.......The blower motor runs vary slow when the key is turned on, by design to operate in this manner......NOT..to turn off/stop when switch is off..but to continue to run vary slowly, all the time......Dose anyone know why it was designed to run like this??????
Thanks for the info,
if this is correct, then I am not going to worry about it or try to chase it down and fix some thing that is not broke.
If you hear a rattle it is my head as I shack in disbelief.

OK..I'll hook up the two remaining wires tomorrow and add gas to tank..start up coming soon, I have not run this in a year plus.

Thanks guys

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Originally Posted by Douglas Brown
...The blower motor runs vary slow when the key is turned on, by design to operate in this manner...
Yes.

...Dose anyone know why it was designed to run like this?...
I recall reading something about why GM thought it was best to have the fan running on low, but can't recall their specific reason. If memory serves, if you remove the brown wire from the switch, you can get around the auto run.

Have you checked the owner's manual? It might mention something about the fan being on.

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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:12 AM
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Gm was keeping fresh air in the cabin when the key was on. there is a brown wire that bypasses the switch through the low speed resistor.
http://www.corvetteforum.net/c3/tune.../index16.shtml
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Old Mar 20, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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"Have you checked the owner's manual? It might mention something about the fan being on."

From the owners manual:

Notice, whenever the ignition switch is turned on, the blower motor will automatically operate Lo,Med or Hi depending on switch setting. There is no OFF position.
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Originally Posted by karol
...From the owners manual:...Notice, whenever the ignition switch is turned on, the blower motor will automatically operate Lo,Med or Hi depending on switch setting. There is no OFF position...
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What we would do is place a hidden switch in that brown wire so we could just turn it off..not an option for the purists.....
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I do not have an Owners manual,,,But since all seem to be in agreement that it is normal and designed to be that way, just seems odd to me. However If the cabin temp was and is as high as everyone states due to heat then keeping a fan running to help circulate air would make sense.
Thanks for keeping me straight.

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ps: I'll get an OM in next order..

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Years ago a member posted this for his fix:

Low to Off
Disconnect connector at resistor box under hood pass. side near high blower relay & bend down the connector to dk. brown wire & reconnect. Another way is to remove the wire from the connnector.

I have not tried it.

I always remember the fan running having to do with Ralp Nadar and his quest to having the air moving all the time.
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Originally Posted by karol
Years ago a member posted this for his fix:

Low to Off
Disconnect connector at resistor box under hood pass. side near high blower relay & bend down the connector to dk. brown wire & reconnect. Another way is to remove the wire from the connnector.

I have not tried it.

I always remember the fan running having to do with Ralp Nadar and his quest to having the air moving all the time.
Thanks for the iinfo..
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I've been running my 78 with the blower motor unplugged for a few years now. Just plug it in in them fall to take the chill out of the car.
No shortage of heat in the ole' girl anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dodosmike
I've been running my 78 with the blower motor unplugged for a few years now. Just plug it in in them fall to take the chill out of the car.
No shortage of heat in the ole' girl anyway.

Dodosmike
Well I have gotten a few good suggestions, Thanks....
Here in the high desert of the southwest (between Mesquite, NV. and St George, Ut.) it is the heat we deal with 110 - 120. Now that I know it is designed to do this I can deal with it, at first I thought it was an electrical problem...

Thanks again..good to hear from everyone.
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[QUOTE=Douglas Brown;1586451728]I do not have an Owners manual,,,But since all seem to be in agreement that it is normal and designed to be that way, just seems odd to me. However If the cabin temp was and is as high as everyone states due to heat then keeping a fan running to help circulate air would make sense.

OK Doug, here ya' go. 1978 Owners Manual, Page 2 - 19, FAN:
The fan lever has four (4) positions from Low at the bottom to Hi(sic) at the top. When the air conditioning system is Off, low blower will be maintained regardless of fan switch position.
Hope that's the answer you were looking for. Sounds like you got that harness right on the first try. Congrats!
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Old Mar 21, 2014 | 08:16 PM
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[QUOTE=pacecar620;1586461789]
Originally Posted by Douglas Brown
I do not have an Owners manual,,,But since all seem to be in agreement that it is normal and designed to be that way, just seems odd to me. However If the cabin temp was and is as high as everyone states due to heat then keeping a fan running to help circulate air would make sense.

OK Doug, here ya' go. 1978 Owners Manual, Page 2 - 19, FAN:
The fan lever has four (4) positions from Low at the bottom to Hi(sic) at the top. When the air conditioning system is Off, low blower will be maintained regardless of fan switch position.
Hope that's the answer you were looking for. Sounds like you got that harness right on the first try. Congrats!
thanks for the info....
Got the lights working, had a bad connection that caused some concern, went to start it and the fuel pump dose not pump. I'll have to look at that tomorrow.....
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Your original pump is mechanical, not electrical.
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Old Mar 22, 2014 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by briankeery
Your original pump is mechanical, not electrical.
Yes I know.....Different problem differ system. Either diaphragm is bad or push rod is problem.. will have to take it off and check it out. Lines are clear.
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