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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 05:30 AM
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Was checking numbers and the engine code area in front of block has no numbers. At all. I know this reeks of bubba but the date code works out (may 24 1973) The engine code area does not look like its been ground away. In fact it looks factory milled once I scraped the red paint off.
Paint seems original too. If in fact the blocks were painted.
Don't s'pose it can be traced via the block casting # ??
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 10:14 AM
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The factory broached the block surfaces not milled them. Milling is a typical sign of what engine rebuilders do during a decking operation.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
The factory broached the block surfaces not milled them. Milling is a typical sign of what engine rebuilders do during a decking operation.
Thanks Mike
I take it 'decking' means rebuild?
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by scotto64
Thanks Mike
I take it 'decking' means rebuild?
Resurface the block mating surfaces and or heads, done at the time of rebuild.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by scotto64
...this reeks of bubba...
Bubba didn't deck your block. He paid someone else to do it. Truth be told, it was probably not necessary.

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My buddy has an all original 67 camaro that came with no stamping on the pad. I heard it would happen. Sucks for the numbers matching people.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Perfmach1
My buddy has an all original 67 camaro that came with no stamping on the pad. I heard it would happen. Sucks for the numbers matching people.
Calling BS on this. With no stamp on the pad there'd be no way to positively determine what type of engine it was. That's why they stamped them in the first place.

No stamps at all would require two different people at two different locations at two different times to make the identical mistake on the same engine which nobody caught.

Your buddy is making excuses for a NOM car.

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I helped pull the motor in this car 15 years ago. It was a 327-210 hp, 2 barrel. Not really a car anybody was interested in faking back then or now.
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Originally Posted by Perfmach1
I helped pull the motor in this car 15 years ago. It was a 327-210 hp, 2 barrel. Not really a car anybody was interested in faking back then or now.
No, but just another block that had been decked.
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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Bubba didn't deck your block. He paid someone else to do it. Truth be told, it was probably not necessary.

Thanx Mike
It appears the gearbox was rebuilt too. There is a tag rivetted on it that is from 'Sandland transmissions' (?) in Sun Valley. Tag reads 1985. Engine must have been done around turn of the century. Can't find paperwork in the history. I'm pretty peeved about the engine numbers but 'caveat emptor' applies here. And it will never be a show car. It's the original motor and box so far as I can see so unless some one from australia managed to get an early 1973 bb from the states and import it just so he could take the original, which I seriously doubt, then I'm ok with it.
At least I can be a voice for any Aussies that come to this forum and want to know what and WHERE to look for these things prior to buying.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:07 PM
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Scott,
How the hell you gonna register it without an engine number?

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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by M A Fry
Scott,
How the hell you gonna register it without an engine number?

Mark
How do the authorities in Oz handle rebuilt engines where the numbers have been machined off?
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 08:23 PM
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Scott,
How the hell you gonna register it without an engine number?

Mark
Good question. I can assure you its registered and has been all its life. Apparently the engine number can be found in 2 other places that I have not looked. one is above the oil filter and the other is on the gearbox bellhousing. Will search for them at a later date.
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I don't think you could use the g'box bellhousing number even if it is the same. The bellhousing is a seperate part and can be changed out at any time! I have never heard of chevys having an engine number above the oil filter otherwise we would of had people being advised of this whenever people are chasing down this info.
I do know that ford explorer v6's had their engine number located in the area above the oil filter. Ask me how I know.

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You use the VIN number to register a car in any state I ever lived in. The fact that some cars share an engine number with a VIN number is important in knowing whether you have the original motor in your car maybe but is irrelevant in registering it.
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Originally Posted by M A Fry
I don't think you could use the g'box bellhousing number even if it is the same. The bellhousing is a seperate part and can be changed out at any time! I have never heard of chevys having an engine number above the oil filter otherwise we would of had people being advised of this whenever people are chasing down this info.
I do know that ford explorer v6's had their engine number located in the area above the oil filter. Ask me how I know.

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try here
http://www.nastyz28.com/chevy-engine-code-stampings.php
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Should say, look under vin code format
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
No, but just another block that had been decked.
I've been a machinist for 27 years. I know the difference between a decked block and an original block.
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Old Mar 30, 2014 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by scotto64
Good question. I can assure you its registered and has been all its life. Apparently the engine number can be found in 2 other places that I have not looked. one is above the oil filter and the other is on the gearbox bellhousing. Will search for them at a later date.
Don't know of any SBC or BBC engines that were consistently stamped in more than one location.

No VIN numbers were stamped on the bellhousing.

Some years had the number stamped on the transmission housing.
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