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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 02:23 AM
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Well I'm replacing the calipers on my 82 and the driver's rear was already drilled out but the right rear is not. I have drilled out the rivets but still can not remove the rotor. There are two larger holes for the "E" brake adjustment that is still closed up, do those have to be drilled out too? On the other 5 holes I used up to a 23/64 drill bit which I think is large enough. If I go bigger I'll be drilling into the rotor. So what is the secret?

Also the reason I'm removing the rotor is to check the "E" brake pads, on the drivers it's about a 1/8" thick. Is that about right? I know they don't put much pad on there but have never seen one before to compare to.

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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 04:19 AM
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normally when removing the rivots you drill off the peened over end down to the rotor, take a punch and drive out the rivot. rotor due to age is most likely stuck, whack it with a hammer, adding penetrating oils as you go.T
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 07:26 AM
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Here is what they look like when new. The rotor can be stuck to the spindle as terry stated. Do not use the caliper mount and pry bar against the rotor. The mount can be bent. mike...

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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 12:30 PM
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Ok thanks but do I have to drill out the larger hole right now before it can be removed or will it come without the hole opened. I'd rather drill that hole on the bench.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 12:31 PM
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Here is what they look like when new. The rotor can be stuck to the spindle as terry stated. Do not use the caliper mount and pry bar against the rotor. The mount can be bent. mike...

Nice looking unit by the way.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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The e-brake holes should not be sealed up. I only had to drill the five rivets between the studs. One rotor was stuck to the hub and was difficult to remove. The inner hole of the rotor sticks to the outer diameter of the hub. Can you get us a picture? mike...

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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 01:55 PM
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Ok thanks but do I have to drill out the larger hole right now before it can be removed or will it come without the hole opened. I'd rather drill that hole on the bench.
No. The larger e-brake hole has nothing to do with rotor removal. And as noted... you should be able to see through the rotor and the spindle to the inside of the assembly. This is how the e-brake is adjusted... through the large hole. It doesn't make sense that you cannot see through it. Possibly, somebody already replaced the rotor and installed new rivets, and didn't line up the e-brake hole properly. At one point, somebody was manufacturing spindles without the brake adjusting hole. This is also a possibility.
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by terrys6t8roadster
normally when removing the rivots you drill off the peened over end down to the rotor, take a punch and drive out the rivot. rotor due to age is most likely stuck, whack it with a hammer, adding penetrating oils as you go.T
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And use a "dead-blow" hammer.......or place a block of wood against the back side of the rotor to hit-on when hitting with a hammer to keep from damaging the rotor......rotate the rotor 1/4 turn at a time as you hit the backside of it.

Sometimes it can take a while to get a stuck rotor aloose.
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Well here is the hub and still can't get it off, I've tried heat and the beating but nothing. See how the larger holes are covered.http://s929.photobucket.com/user/alc...g.html?filters[user]=99198616&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=1


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Here are the pads on the drivers side. Do you think these are fine

Also the hub looks newer than the other side so I wonder if they had a bad bearing and replaced it??
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Looks like Tom454 has it correct. The large holes are not holding the rotor on. As far as I can see the rotor should be free to come off. I have been wrong a couple of times. E-brake shoes look good on that side. Good luck with it. mike...
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Ok bad to beating then..
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Wait and see what the other guys say. Take a break and lets see if the real experts have any ideas. I do not want you to hurt the car. mike...
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 06:03 PM
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I had to get mine off after a bearing failure a couple of years ago. I used a lot of penetrating oil and the block of wood to beat on trick. Took some time but I got them off (they were both stuck).
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Old Apr 5, 2014 | 06:21 PM
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Ok finally was able to remove it. For some reason the rotor was offset from the e-brake holes. Now any input of the condition of the pads? Passenger side looks the same as the driver's, about a 1/8" thickness. The e-brake grips going in reverse but only a slight drag forwards, maybe just needs adjusting?? I was also going to lube the backside of the rotors with anti-seize so this doesn't happen again.
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It is really only a parking brake. Most C3 engines can overcome the E/P-brake during a full on engine test like they do during an inspection. Shoes look good to me and are close to mine. Happy see you got her off. Clean off as much rust as possible on the inner rotor hole, outer spindle and lug studs. Press On! mike...

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Thanks for your help
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Old Apr 6, 2014 | 08:21 AM
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When I lived in NJ (1980-1996) the State Inspection included a test of the parking brake. They would apply the brake and then either put the car in drive or let the clutch out. If the brake did not hold, they would fail the car. It was impossible for me to use the factory adjustment procedure to adjust the parking brake so that the car would pass the NJ test. It always held great in reverse, but failed in forward. I had to over-adjust (tight), drive to the nearest inspection station, pass the test, and then loosen up the drag on the shoes when I got back home. The rotors would get super hot but there was no other way to pass the inspection. Both of my Corvette's behaved the same way plus a neighbors 76. I've never been able to get a C2/C3 parking brake to hold when the trans was put in drive (let out the clutch) and the technician stepped on the gas. Especially with the 454. The aftermarket pads with stainless shoes are less "sticky" than OM GM pads... they do not hold as well and tend to glaze. But the GM shoe pads wear faster.
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Interesting.....
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