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Old 08-21-2014, 05:15 PM
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About 30 years ago I replaced the original radio and speakers with an updated aftermarket radio and speakers.

I left all of the original wiring/plugs in place, and have decided to reinstall the original radio and speakers, which I've kept in storage since their removal.

I took the dash apart and removed the gauge cluster to remove the aftermarket radio. Before I put everything back together, I wanted to at least plug in the radio, to see if it still works.

I plugged the radio to the wiring harness, not the speakers, and turned on the ignition, but it did not come on. At least I could not tell if it did.

Is there a simple way to energize the radio, without hooking up the speakers, just to see if it will turn on?

I would very much appreciate your help, as I'm trying to get the car back together, for some end of summer runs, before the snow starts blowing in northern Vermont

I've attached a picture of the Vette, and our matching 69 Z/28, which we bought new in early 1970.

Thank you very much for your help.
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Old 08-21-2014, 05:19 PM
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Did you have the radio grounded?

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Did you have the radio grounded?

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That was my first thought, and I did try to ground it a couple possible points, but it was about 1am and gave up.

I'll try again tonight and will make sure it is a good ground.

Thanks for the quick response, and your comments about our babies

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Hi JS,
I'd think looking for the lighted dial might be one way of determining if there is power in the radio.
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I'd think looking for the lighted dial might be one way of determining if there is power in the radio.
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Alan 71:

Thanks for your quick response, that was what I was looking/hoping for, but I do not think I had a good ground, will try again tonight.

Thanks again,
Jim
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Alan 71:

Thanks for your quick response, that was what I was looking/hoping for, but I do not think I had a good ground, will try again tonight.

Thanks again,
Jim
USUALLY....the antenna will provide a ground - provided it's properly grounded at the rear to the frame. If not any reasonable wire from the battery ground straight to the radio case should work for a temporary test.

Great color - are they both Hugger/Monaco Orange?
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Somebody likes Orange. Orange you glad you Paid $3k or so for the Camaro in '70?
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Originally Posted by Jim Stock
About 30 years ago I replaced the original radio and speakers with an updated aftermarket radio and speakers.

I left all of the original wiring/plugs in place, and have decided to reinstall the original radio and speakers, which I've kept in storage since their removal.

I took the dash apart and removed the gauge cluster to remove the aftermarket radio. Before I put everything back together, I wanted to at least plug in the radio, to see if it still works.

I plugged the radio to the wiring harness, not the speakers, and turned on the ignition, but it did not come on. At least I could not tell if it did.

Is there a simple way to energize the radio, without hooking up the speakers, just to see if it will turn on?

I would very much appreciate your help, as I'm trying to get the car back together, for some end of summer runs, before the snow starts blowing in northern Vermont

I've attached a picture of the Vette, and our matching 69 Z/28, which we bought new in early 1970.

Thank you very much for your help.
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Originally Posted by Hammerhead Fred
USUALLY....the antenna will provide a ground - provided it's properly grounded at the rear to the frame. If not any reasonable wire from the battery ground straight to the radio case should work for a temporary test.

Great color - are they both Hugger/Monaco Orange?
Hammerhead:

Thanks for your comments...much appreciated. I ran jumpers from the battery to the connector on the radio...and it powered up. Played around with it to further diagnose, and when I disconnected the ground from the battery, it still worked. My conclusion is the gray wire 12v source is NOT providing power, and I'll run down the problem, or will supply a new power source to the radio.

Thanks again for your help.

Jim
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Originally Posted by Ironcross
Is the paint colors Corvette Bronze?
Both are Hugger Orange, the Z of course has the black stripes.
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Somebody likes Orange. Orange you glad you Paid $3k or so for the Camaro in '70?
Favorite color, more like $4200 for the Z. Traded a 63 SS and borrowed $400 from my fiancé, wife of 43.5 years and counting, and drove it away after scaring the **** out of the salesman. He was glad to get rid of us.

I did a 2 year restoration on a 64 Coupe from 1978-80, it was black and loved it. Sold it to my brother in law in 85, and he is doing a frame off on it the past 2 years.

Thanks again and have a good weekend.

Jim
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Originally Posted by Jim Stock
Hammerhead:

Thanks for your comments...much appreciated. I ran jumpers from the battery to the connector on the radio...and it powered up. Played around with it to further diagnose, and when I disconnected the ground from the battery, it still worked. My conclusion is the gray wire 12v source is NOT providing power, and I'll run down the problem, or will supply a new power source to the radio.

Thanks again for your help.

Jim
Hi Jim,
All of the gray wiring in my 71 is for the small light bulbs through the dash. I am guessing that if you turn on your head lights, you will get power out of that wire. I believe that the radio power connection was a yellow wire (maybe orange?).
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Hi Jim,
All of the gray wiring in my 71 is for the small light bulbs through the dash. I am guessing that if you turn on your head lights, you will get power out of that wire. I believe that the radio power connection was a yellow wire (maybe orange?).
Hammerhead:

Thanks again for your help and suggestion. I have the wiring schematic for the Vette, and it is definitely a gray wire for the power. Your comment led me back to the garage, I tried turning on the lights, and no radio. I had an unused "hot" red wire in the tangled mess from some far distant, and forgotten adventure, and when I stuck it into the gray terminal of the connector, everything worked the way it was supposed too.

Now I can finish up the gauge cluster, new clock and oil gauge, and start putting everything back together.

I believe the problem is solved, but still going to spend a little time trying to find out why no power on the gray wire. I really appreciate your help, and that of the other Vette lovers, who took the time to help me.

Have a happy Corvetting weekend.

Jim
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Hammerhead:

Thanks again for your help and suggestion. I have the wiring schematic for the Vette, and it is definitely a gray wire for the power. Your comment led me back to the garage, I tried turning on the lights, and no radio. I had an unused "hot" red wire in the tangled mess from some far distant, and forgotten adventure, and when I stuck it into the gray terminal of the connector, everything worked the way it was supposed too.

Now I can finish up the gauge cluster, new clock and oil gauge, and start putting everything back together.

I believe the problem is solved, but still going to spend a little time trying to find out why no power on the gray wire. I really appreciate your help, and that of the other Vette lovers, who took the time to help me.

Have a happy Corvetting weekend.

Jim
Kortensi:

Sorry, still getting use to using the blog, and thought it was Hammerhead who responded with the 71 wiring suggestion.

Jim
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No worries. I went and double checked mine again also to make sure. The radio in the 71 had 3 wires, Black for ground, Yellow for power, and gray for the light in the stereo. Good luck tracking it down. I'd probably start at the fuse box and work my way back from there. Especially since they are so easy to get at.


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No worries. I went and double checked mine again also to make sure. The radio in the 71 had 3 wires, Black for ground, Yellow for power, and gray for the light in the stereo. Good luck tracking it down. I'd probably start at the fuse box and work my way back from there. Especially since they are so easy to get at.


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KO:

Thanks again, the 69 is GY-B-YL, it is a polarized plug, so only one way to plug it in. There was a small original paper sticker, on the radio housing over the plug, that showed the gray wire as the 12v source.

I'll work on it some more tonight and over the weekend, if I find something different I'll let you know.

Jim

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