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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:13 PM
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I just got a 74. My first C3. What kind of smog equipment should it have? Engine is a 350 L48 4 speed with air (CKZ). It is all original numbers matching. It does not have an air pump. I checked the manifolds to see if possible the air tube holes might have been plugged and it does not appear they were ever drilled for the tubes!

Its also a late build car. June 21,1974.

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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:29 PM
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Are you certain it's numbers-matching, or is that just what you were told when you bought it? Im not trying to rain on your parade, it's just that a lot of new owners buy "numbers-matching" cars only to later find out from the very knowledgeable people here that they aren't. If it IS numbers-matching and has no AIR pump or holes in the manifold, then you likely have a car that never was smog-equipped.

Up until the late 70s (I think) cars only had smog equipment if they were being shipped to CA or a "high-altitude" state. It may be possible to determine if you have a smog car by decoding the VIN, but I cannot say for sure. Im sure there are others here that can tell you better than I.
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Are you certain it's numbers-matching, or is that just what you were told when you bought it? Im not trying to rain on your parade, it's just that a lot of new owners buy "numbers-matching" cars only to later find out from the very knowledgeable people here that they aren't. If it IS numbers-matching and has no AIR pump or holes in the manifold, then you likely have a car that never was smog-equipped.

Up until the late 70s (I think) cars only had smog equipment if they were being shipped to CA or a "high-altitude" state. It may be possible to determine if you have a smog car by decoding the VIN, but I cannot say for sure. Im sure there are others here that can tell you better than I.
positive it is matching numbers. checked the numbers on the block. Also, there are not extra groves in the pulleys.
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 12:46 PM
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Then odds are your car never had smog equipment. Even catalytic converters weren't put on the cars until 75 or 76, I think.

This thread should get more traffic this evening once everyone's home from work. That's when the more knowledgeable folks are likely to show up and comment. Post up some pictures for everyone to look at too: we all like looking.
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L-48s may not have had AIR. I can't check until this evening.
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Originally Posted by Kris Tunetso

Up until the late 70s (I think) cars only had smog equipment if they were being shipped to CA or a "high-altitude" state. It may be possible to determine if you have a smog car by decoding the VIN, but I cannot say for sure.

Sorry but both statements are false. All Corvettes had varying types of smog equipment going back to the mid 60s. The VIN contains no info regarding smog info either.

I believe that '74 L-48 with 4 speed had an AIR system, plus EGR plus TCS. Auto trans did not have AIR.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Sorry but both statements are false. All Corvettes had varying types of smog equipment going back to the mid 60s. The VIN contains no info regarding smog info either.

I believe that '74 L-48 with 4 speed had an AIR system, plus EGR plus TCS. Auto trans did not have AIR.
Mike is correct. The 1974 L-48 (non-California) with TH400 did not have an AIR pump. I verified that with GM at one point. But the L-48 with manual transmission should have the pump.



BTW I have never figured out what a "thermostatically controlled air cleaner" is...or "carburetor heated air".


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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Sorry but both statements are false. All Corvettes had varying types of smog equipment going back to the mid 60s. The VIN contains no info regarding smog info either.

I believe that '74 L-48 with 4 speed had an AIR system, plus EGR plus TCS. Auto trans did not have AIR.
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Mike is correct. The 1974 L-48 (non-California) with TH400 did not have an AIR pump. I verified that with GM at one point. But the L-48 with manual transmission should have the pump.
Hence why I said "I think" and "I cannot say for sure." I stand corrected. Thank you gentlemen.

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Originally Posted by paul 74

BTW I have never figured out what a "thermostatically controlled air cleaner" is...or "carburetor heated air".
The first is a vacuum activated valve built into the snorkel of the air cleaner that selects either warmed air from the outside of the exhaust manifold via a tube or fresh air. It's thermostatically controlled according to coolant temp.

The second could mean the same thing or the heated passage inside the intake manifold.
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The first is a vacuum activated valve built into the snorkel of the air cleaner that selects either warmed air from the outside of the exhaust manifold via a tube or fresh air. It's thermostatically controlled according to coolant temp.

I had that system on my 1979. The 1974 Corvette does not have it. Perhaps passenger cars had it but not the Corvette. Hence my confusion. Perhaps that spec sheet is wrong. Does the 1973 have it?


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Here's a picture of a '74 l48 4 speed I owned. It had a 29199 diverter valve, 7801149 pump and 3917234al pulley. Also was Bloomington gold/survivor and NCRS top flight implying all was correct. I agree with the others that said check your "numbers" since you don't have plugged exhaust manifolds.
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Originally Posted by blkvette85
I just got a 74. My first C3. What kind of smog equipment should it have? Engine is a 350 L48 4 speed with air (CKZ). It is all original numbers matching. It does not have an air pump. I checked the manifolds to see if possible the air tube holes might have been plugged and it does not appear they were ever drilled for the tubes!

Its also a late build car. June 21,1974.

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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Does the 1973 have it?
Nope. Maybe '76?
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Old Dec 10, 2014 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Nope. Maybe '76?
Toylman has a good pic. Those air cleaner base vacuum valves are not there. Nor are they on mine. That spec sheet was probably mixing cars without cowl induction in with Corvettes. Bureaucrats sometimes foul up. In any case this should not detract from the original question. The OP's car should have the AIR pump.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Nope. Maybe '76?
Originally Posted by paul 74
I had that system on my 1979. The 1974 Corvette does not have it. Perhaps passenger cars had it but not the Corvette. Hence my confusion. Perhaps that spec sheet is wrong. Does the 1973 have it?
1976 was the first year the Corvette used the "Thermostatically Controlled Air Cleaner", though other Chevrolet's came with it as early 70 or 71. It was on all Corvettes from 76 on. It's pretty easy to identify. Any car that has a "stove pipe", or tube running from the exhaust manifold to the air cleaner, has it.

I agree with Paul 74, in regards to 74's with A.I.R. Federal Emission 74 L-48 automatics didn't use it, but all other 74's did.
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Originally Posted by gbvette62
1976 was the first year the Corvette used the "Thermostatically Controlled Air Cleaner", though other Chevrolet's came with it as early 70 or 71. It was on all Corvettes from 76 on. It's pretty easy to identify. Any car that has a "stove pipe", or tube running from the exhaust manifold to the air cleaner, has it.

I agree with Paul 74, in regards to 74's with A.I.R. Federal Emission 74 L-48 automatics didn't use it, but all other 74's did.
It does make you wonder how the Motor Vehicles Manufacturers Association (MVMA) could get it wrong for the 1974 Corvette.
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Look just to the rear of the master cylinder the ZB sticker will say:
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CCS-EGR AIR-EGR


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Just for information, my 73 L48 with th400 trans originally had an air pump. The car was delivered through a Maryland dealer.
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Thanks for all the info. I guess I have more reach to do on my Vette.
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OK, one last comment. This is the emissions tag on my 1974. Note CCS/EGR for automatic and AIR/EGR for manual.

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My auto L48 74 coupe never had a smog pump that I ever saw , no sign of brackets or manifold with holes, it was bone stock far as I know when bought it engine wise . ....well,save the side pipes.

The 4 speed L48 did come with a pump setup . I think there are pics of all the possible belt configuration in the AIM.

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