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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LeMans Pete
No not that, you said that fake temperature name...
So that's what the F stands for. I thought it was Fahrenheit, or as we pronounce it up here 'Luddite'.

I think Paul is being quite kind by converting real degrees (C) into F knowing that you guys enjoy being the last civilized country on earth to still use the system. There again, you guys have those weird mini-gallons that no one else on earth uses.

Was that the rant you were looking for?

Or was it the one about the windshield factor myth again?
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
So that's what the F stands for. I thought it was Fahrenheit, or as we pronounce it up here 'Luddite'.

I think Paul is being quite kind by converting real degrees (C) into F knowing that you guys enjoy being the last civilized country on earth to still use the system. There again, you guys have those weird mini-gallons that no one else on earth uses.

Was that the rant you were looking for?

Or was it the one about the windshield factor myth again?
Yes, our USA friends do not use *C and has no meaning for them. And actually I still relate to *F much more closely than *C. As to their 5/6 USA gallon vs Imperial gallon, I do not know where that came from?

Whatever, I just barely passed the stats course in university so cannot engage in that debate.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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It's not just the mini-gallon or Fake temperature scale:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_imperial_and_US_customary_measurement_systems
Everybody confused now?
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
It's not just the mini-gallon or Fake temperature scale:

Comparison of the imperial and US customary measurement systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everybody confused now?
Not really. When I view the mileage consumption on my Cruze DIC it is US gallons mpg. Chevrolet never thinks Canada! I just bump that up to Imperial mentally: add 16%. No problem.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 07:57 PM
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It's not just the mini-gallon or Fake temperature scale: Video Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_the_imperial_and_US_custom ary_measurement_systems Everybody confused now?
Ah, except Fahrenheit came first, and that imperial gallon is an imposter.

To keep this thread in track, I think that your car as a whole is rarer than Mike Ward accepting American units. But we can at least agree that -40°F is frickin freezing!
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Originally Posted by LeMans Pete
Ah, except Fahrenheit came first, and that imperial gallon is an imposter.

To keep this thread in track, I think that your car as a whole is rarer than Mike Ward accepting American units. But we can at least agree that -40°F is frickin freezing!
OK, over and out for this evening. Some 4,629 convertibles in 1975 and some 5,474 in 1974. Does it really matter how many are left? And I have one of those 1974s convertibles? I don't care. It is just a nice rubber bumper that no one wants, except me. Fun car.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
OK, over and out for this evening. Some 4,629 convertibles in 1975 and some 5,474 in 1974. Does it really matter how many are left? And I have one of those 1974s convertibles? I don't care. It is just a nice rubber bumper that no one wants, except me. Fun car.
Paul, I would take your '74 in a drop of a hat.
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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
It's not just the mini-gallon or Fake temperature scale:

Comparison of the imperial and US customary measurement systems - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everybody confused now?
My good Canadian friends, who live in Calgary, tell me the only reason Canada went metric was because the Canadian government was sure the U.S. would make the change. However it was so unpopular here, we didn't convert. My friends told me they'd gladly switch back to our system.

Paul, curious about your Cruz, my C6ZO6 has a full metric capabilities.


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Old Jan 6, 2015 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Not really. When I view the mileage consumption on my Cruze DIC it is US gallons mpg. Chevrolet never thinks Canada! I just bump that up to Imperial mentally: add 16%. No problem.
Your car won't display in metric? My summer beater allows me to choose metric, Imperial or US measure. Also speaks US English or British English. Useful when we travel south and want to know how many furlongs per fortnight we're doing .


My winter beater only displays metric or US.


Originally Posted by LeMans Pete
Ah, except Fahrenheit came first, and that imperial gallon is an imposter.

To keep this thread in track, I think that your car as a whole is rarer than Mike Ward accepting American units. But we can at least agree that -40°F is frickin freezing!
But Farenheit was not American. He was German. You should have rejected the F scale at the same time as you rejected everything to do with the British and all their measurement scales back in 1776.

Oh wait- you kept most of them. How strange. Not even the British use most of them today.

I was brought up on the Imperial system (like Paul) but dropped it the day metric came out.
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Originally Posted by PeteZO6
My friends told me they'd gladly switch back to our system.
To be clear- we never used US measure in Canada, then or today.

Non-metric measure is always in Imperial (real) gallons.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
To be clear- we never used US measure in Canada, then or today.

Non-metric measure is always in Imperial (real) gallons.
In linear measurmennt, you did use miles didn't you? On my 70th birthday, my Calgary friends gave me a t-shirt that read, "In Canada I'm 112". HaHa!

I remember those Imperial gallons, I had an early 50s (no year models for our British cousinss in those days) XK120 Jaguar. Mix and match, SAE and Whitworth. And Imperial measurements for fuel, oil, etc. Fun stuff for a young guy with a car that kept him digging into his nearly empty wallet.


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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 01:17 AM
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In linear measurmennt, you did use miles didn't you?
Yes, but 'a mile' is not a US invention- it's British.
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Originally Posted by Mike Ward
Yes, but 'a mile' is not a US invention- it's British.
Well, once upon a time a great number of us all came from the British Isles. Many of our inventions come from there too. We (on this contenent) did abandon the British way and decided to drive on the right side of road. This is not an argument or pi$$ing match

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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
OK, over and out for this evening. Some 4,629 convertibles in 1975 and some 5,474 in 1974. Does it really matter how many are left? And I have one of those 1974s convertibles? I don't care. It is just a nice rubber bumper that no one wants, except me. Fun car.
Paul, Im with you 100%
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by paul 74
Brisk? Yes. The windchill will be -33*F tomorrow. I saw -50*F when I lived in the Yukon many moons ago. Heh, it's Canada. Strangely you get used to it. Even the block heater on my 2013 Cruze is programmed NOT to work until 0*F. I can't even find the plug but I am not worried about it. That car starts right up at these temps. Cute little grocery-getter.
Pauls' weather forecast was almost spot on. The static temp right now is -20*C with a windshield factor of -32*C. This evening the static temp will go down to -26*C but the windshields will only think it's -34 since the winds will drop from 25km/hr to 10km/hr.

Film at 11 (that part isn't metric).
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I was out this morning in the grocery-getter. The temp now has reached the point where road salt no longer works. Pretty tricky and slick driving.
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Pauls' weather forecast was almost spot on. The static temp right now is -20*C with a windshield factor of -32*C. This evening the static temp will go down to -26*C but the windshields will only think it's -34 since the winds will drop from 25km/hr to 10km/hr.

Film at 11 (that part isn't metric).
What is this windshield factor? Looks like the phonetic spelling of a southern twang saying "windchill."
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I was out this morning in the grocery-getter. The temp now has reached the point where road salt no longer works. Pretty tricky and slick driving.
funny ...We call my corvette the little
grocery getter .....cause about three or four bags is all that will fit in the back with soft top,folded in.

I believe I d put the top UP ....-20F is a little too brisk for me
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LeMans Pete
What is this windshield factor? Looks like the phonetic spelling of a southern twang saying "windchill."
I used to work with a guy that honestly thought that this was how 'wind chill' was spelled and pronounced. Despite him being a graduate mechanical engineer (with honours) I could not convince him that wind chill had no effect on inanimate objects.

He also insisted that the expression was 'for all intensive purposes', frequently used the word 'irregardless' and pronounced aluminum as 'malunimum'.

He didn't last too long.
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Originally Posted by LS4 PILOT
funny ...We call my corvette the little
grocery getter .....cause about three or four bags is all that will fit in the back with soft top,folded in.
NAH, you can fit 10 cases of Budweiser in the Vette. Done it many times.

Windshield factor - I like that.

By the way, regarding the metric system, at the end of World War II, 2 countries were using the metric system, one was conquered and the other lost. Funny how that works.

Another funny thing, the European aircraft industry insists that everything be designed and built to metric dimensions - BUT, they use inch series bolts and nuts! Huh?
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