Remanf engine stamp service
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Safety Car
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From: Lafayette Louisiana
Remanf engine stamp service
Interesting service:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Broac...c636bc&vxp=mtr
I did not know this type of service existed, LOL's! So, IMHO, I would be very careful paying a big premium for a matching numbers Corvette, particularly if you have no other documentation (and if there is a service for this, well, .... I suppose there are services for the "other documentation" too and likely cheaper than the engine stamp, you think??)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-Broac...c636bc&vxp=mtr
I did not know this type of service existed, LOL's! So, IMHO, I would be very careful paying a big premium for a matching numbers Corvette, particularly if you have no other documentation (and if there is a service for this, well, .... I suppose there are services for the "other documentation" too and likely cheaper than the engine stamp, you think??)
Race Director
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Nothing new here. People were restamping blocks 40 years ago, when I first got involved in the Corvette hobby. The company in the link has been doing it since the early 80's, and maybe even longer.
Team Owner
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From: Westminster Maryland
Hi,
The ad also mentions renting the gang holder in order to stamp your own block.
I don't quite understand how someone with no experience gets a typical looking stamp with only a single hit of the hammer.
Doesn't it take a pretty SERIOUS whack with all those characters?
What do you practice on?
Am I missing something?
Regards,
Alan
The ad also mentions renting the gang holder in order to stamp your own block.
I don't quite understand how someone with no experience gets a typical looking stamp with only a single hit of the hammer.
Doesn't it take a pretty SERIOUS whack with all those characters?
What do you practice on?
Am I missing something?
Regards,
Alan
Melting Slicks
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From: Tolland CT
Nothing new. There's another company who will go further, supply a date coded block, broached and stamped with your serial number. There are services out there advertising fake documents as well. Does anybody believe very few LT1s or big blocks were ever blown up or had their engines removed?
It's a cat and mouse game. Once people figure out how to tell a fake from an original, the forgers improve their technique.
If I were a buyer today, looking at paying huge money for numbers, I'd pay the fee to a fellow who has an extensive library of photos to use for comparison. Look for patterns in the stamp consistent with other stamp pads from that time period. Even then there's no guarantee.
Aren't there many more sworn original L88's floating around than were ever built by GM?
It's a cat and mouse game. Once people figure out how to tell a fake from an original, the forgers improve their technique.
If I were a buyer today, looking at paying huge money for numbers, I'd pay the fee to a fellow who has an extensive library of photos to use for comparison. Look for patterns in the stamp consistent with other stamp pads from that time period. Even then there's no guarantee.
Aren't there many more sworn original L88's floating around than were ever built by GM?
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"Hi my name is Randy with Engines Limited. I have been in the numbers matching business for 35 years. I can help you sell your block. We have a stamp rental that will put the correct style and shape numbers on your block. My stamps have passed Bloomington Gold and NCRS judging. We also offer a full length broaching service, it makes the deck look like a factory finish" Makes me wonder even more about all those Bloomington and NCRS CARS you see....................
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Safety Car
Joined: May 2008
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From: Lafayette Louisiana
Hi,
The ad also mentions renting the gang holder in order to stamp your own block.
I don't quite understand how someone with no experience gets a typical looking stamp with only a single hit of the hammer.
Doesn't it take a pretty SERIOUS whack with all those characters?
What do you practice on?
Am I missing something?
Regards,
Alan
The ad also mentions renting the gang holder in order to stamp your own block.
I don't quite understand how someone with no experience gets a typical looking stamp with only a single hit of the hammer.
Doesn't it take a pretty SERIOUS whack with all those characters?
What do you practice on?
Am I missing something?
Regards,
Alan
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Naaaaa....practice on that John Deere tractor of yours......by the time it has a bout 30 serial numbers on it the stamps will be broken in/no sharp edges/you'll be ready to do numbers-matching on my project "for entertainment purposes only"....of "coarse"!
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Better yet, mine. 427 L88 engine with my vin. Car would be worth about what it wolf be otherwise.
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Safety Car
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1400 to broach your block.. probably 600+ to stamp it for you, block machining starts at 1500... doesn't say much how much price escalates if you use your own block, add about 750 to ship your block both ways to wisconsin.. so you are at 4250 and then you have a fresh machined, stamped and broached empty block ready for your components.. so add another 3K+ to get you a turn key system delivered to your door.. your block.. if you buy his block, add another 3500... so ballpark math... 11K to get you a pretty good numbers matching engine that will fool 98% of everybody. keep adding to that if you want date matching heads, manifolds, carb, correct hoses, clamps, water pump, distributor...
is it really worth it to spend that much to play the game??
is it really worth it to spend that much to play the game??
Melting Slicks
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From: Tolland CT
1400 to broach your block.. probably 600+ to stamp it for you, block machining starts at 1500... doesn't say much how much price escalates if you use your own block, add about 750 to ship your block both ways to wisconsin.. so you are at 4250 and then you have a fresh machined, stamped and broached empty block ready for your components.. so add another 3K+ to get you a turn key system delivered to your door.. your block.. if you buy his block, add another 3500... so ballpark math... 11K to get you a pretty good numbers matching engine that will fool 98% of everybody. keep adding to that if you want date matching heads, manifolds, carb, correct hoses, clamps, water pump, distributor...
is it really worth it to spend that much to play the game??
is it really worth it to spend that much to play the game??
Safety Car
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From: Indy Indiana
in order to get the big bucks for a car, you need matching numbers drivetrain, correct cast codes and dates, correct panels, date coded glass, verified doc, no rust, correct paint, high (potential) judging points and a hundred other points...
you rarely see a car with all these points pass hands at any kind of profit ... somebody always skimps on something.
I could do all that to my car, spend 20K and maybe get 25K more for my car. and all it takes is a quick call to the owner before me to have it all unravel..I would never find a buyer to pay me that 25K more.
perhaps a hemi cuda, a DZ camaro, or these exotic foreign jobbies are different..
you rarely see a car with all these points pass hands at any kind of profit ... somebody always skimps on something.
I could do all that to my car, spend 20K and maybe get 25K more for my car. and all it takes is a quick call to the owner before me to have it all unravel..I would never find a buyer to pay me that 25K more.
perhaps a hemi cuda, a DZ camaro, or these exotic foreign jobbies are different..
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They actually rent out the stamping equipment. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Engine-block-stamping-kit-rental-/300877892990?hash=item460db84d7e
