Evans waterless engine coolant
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Racer
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From: New South Wales
Evans waterless engine coolant
There seems to be a lot of advertising here in Australia at the moment for Evans waterless engine coolant. I have a brand new BluePrint Engines 383 with a new DeWitts aluminium radiator in my 79 project. Just wondering if it is worth running this from the start or should I just use a conventional engine coolant??
Any opinions or experiences would be appreciated.
Cheers, Colin
Any opinions or experiences would be appreciated.
Cheers, Colin
Burning Brakes
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From: shelbyville West Michigan
I think it is worth it. especially if you own stock in the company. more profit for them. you won't be out anything but money. If you can convince yourself that the money spent is worth whatever peace of mind their advertising gives you, it will be worth it for you as well.
There is good money in fuel, oil, coolant, battery, and tire additives...they've been selling them since cars were invented.
Your engine, by the way, couldn't care less...
There is good money in fuel, oil, coolant, battery, and tire additives...they've been selling them since cars were invented.
Your engine, by the way, couldn't care less...
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If the cooling system is in proper condition, you're wasting your money. If it runs hot, I'd locate the source of the problem. Lots of help here to get your cooling system in top shape if it's not already there.
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From: Hermosa
If you figure you're never going to have a leak or have to drain the fluid for any reason I guess you could justify it.
The $$$ vs benefit seems pretty steep to me.
Good distilled water and antifreeze seems much more affordable should some leak or get lost during draining and replacement of hoses or anything else to do with the cooling system.
The $$$ vs benefit seems pretty steep to me.
Good distilled water and antifreeze seems much more affordable should some leak or get lost during draining and replacement of hoses or anything else to do with the cooling system.
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From: Eustis ( Area 51 Bat Cave ) Fl
Oh dear this is gonna get fun.... the people who promote it act like they do own stock in the company and take any not praising remarks about it as insults.
Google it, do your homework it's got a lot of cons including price and hassles and no real pros in a normal street car with a properly functioning cooling system, it doesn't cool any better than good old pre mix in fact even stated by the company the engine very well might run hotter...this I would never pay anything for much less their high prices.
For me in fl I dont need anti freeze but additives for the metal and water pump I will run water and a product like....
http://www.no-rosion.com/norosioncoolant.htm
But if you think the only cars that cool correctly run evans then by all means run it....
Google it, do your homework it's got a lot of cons including price and hassles and no real pros in a normal street car with a properly functioning cooling system, it doesn't cool any better than good old pre mix in fact even stated by the company the engine very well might run hotter...this I would never pay anything for much less their high prices.
For me in fl I dont need anti freeze but additives for the metal and water pump I will run water and a product like....
http://www.no-rosion.com/norosioncoolant.htm
But if you think the only cars that cool correctly run evans then by all means run it....
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Racer
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From: New South Wales
I think my questions have been answered!
Thanks for the responses. I think my question has been answered and I will stick to a good conventional coolant and distilled water. Just thought the Evans may have offered a little more resistance to corrosion. With a brand new engine and radiator I just want to ensure maximum protection.
Cheers, Colin
Cheers, Colin
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From: Rapid City South Dakota
The responses here are irrelevant as to why you might choose Evans coolant. Most all of us who have tried it and use it, like it. I have it in 4 vehicles, have used it for 5 years, and wouldn't use anything else.
It's not touted to cure an overheating problem. It's a lifetime coolant so everyone replacing their coolant and doing flushes will spend much more in labor and replacing coolant in the long run.
Dissimilar metals in contact with water will generate a voltage which results in corrosion. If you have spent a lot of money on your engine, and you would like to reduce maintenance costs, you should use Evans particularly if you plan on keeping the vehicle a long time.
When you change hoses, thermostats etc. just save the coolant in a clean bucket and reuse it.
There is some evidence performance is increased by using Evans due to more even combustion temperatures.
It's not touted to cure an overheating problem. It's a lifetime coolant so everyone replacing their coolant and doing flushes will spend much more in labor and replacing coolant in the long run.
Dissimilar metals in contact with water will generate a voltage which results in corrosion. If you have spent a lot of money on your engine, and you would like to reduce maintenance costs, you should use Evans particularly if you plan on keeping the vehicle a long time.
When you change hoses, thermostats etc. just save the coolant in a clean bucket and reuse it.
There is some evidence performance is increased by using Evans due to more even combustion temperatures.
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The responses here are irrelevant as to why you might choose Evans coolant. Most all of us who have tried it and use it, like it. I have it in 4 vehicles, have used it for 5 years, and wouldn't use anything else.
It's not touted to cure an overheating problem. It's a lifetime coolant so everyone replacing their coolant and doing flushes will spend much more in labor and replacing coolant in the long run.
Dissimilar metals in contact with water will generate a voltage which results in corrosion. If you have spent a lot of money on your engine, and you would like to reduce maintenance costs, you should use Evans particularly if you plan on keeping the vehicle a long time.
When you change hoses, thermostats etc. just save the coolant in a clean bucket and reuse it.
There is some evidence performance is increased by using Evans due to more even combustion temperatures.
It's not touted to cure an overheating problem. It's a lifetime coolant so everyone replacing their coolant and doing flushes will spend much more in labor and replacing coolant in the long run.
Dissimilar metals in contact with water will generate a voltage which results in corrosion. If you have spent a lot of money on your engine, and you would like to reduce maintenance costs, you should use Evans particularly if you plan on keeping the vehicle a long time.
When you change hoses, thermostats etc. just save the coolant in a clean bucket and reuse it.
There is some evidence performance is increased by using Evans due to more even combustion temperatures.
Evans is polypropylene glycol with some additives...hopefully such as water pump bearing sealants. The big, and only advantage I know, of polypropylene is that it's not poisonous. Both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol have very nice sweet tastes. Drink ethylene and you'll die a slow and very painful death due to complete liver failure. Drink polypropylene and there'll no harm...look at candy bars and "healthbars"...they often contain polypropylene. Polypropylene is not poisonous. I've read that Switzerland mandates polypropylene in automobiles...ethylene is illegal. The danger of ethylene is that it will kill curious small children and dogs that drink it. Poly is expensive...$50+ a quart? Ethylene is ~$14 a quart.
Both of the above 2 coolants, will prevent rust in your block, heads, and radiator. Neither coolant will boil below ~350 degrees F. This means you coolant system is never pressurized! (Note; all the water must be gone.)
All the WWII US and English fighter planes used 100% ethylene glycol in their Merlin, Griffin,Allyson V-12 internal combustion engines.
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From: Hermosa
I use pure ethylene glycol in my 95 Seville SLS, my 97 T-bird, my 68 Corvette. Pretty close to putting pure ethylene into the C6.
Evans is polypropylene glycol with some additives...hopefully such as water pump bearing sealants. The big, and only advantage I know, of polypropylene is that it's not poisonous. Both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol have very nice sweet tastes. Drink ethylene and you'll die a slow and very painful death due to complete liver failure. Drink polypropylene and there'll no harm...look at candy bars and "healthbars"...they often contain polypropylene. Polypropylene is not poisonous. I've read that Switzerland mandates polypropylene in automobiles...ethylene is illegal. The danger of ethylene is that it will kill curious small children and dogs that drink it. Poly is expensive...$50+ a quart? Ethylene is ~$14 a quart.
Both of the above 2 coolants, will prevent rust in your block, heads, and radiator. Neither coolant will boil below ~350 degrees F. This means you coolant system is never pressurized! (Note; all the water must be gone.)
All the WWII US and English fighter planes used 100% ethylene glycol in their Merlin, Griffin,Allyson V-12 internal combustion engines.
Evans is polypropylene glycol with some additives...hopefully such as water pump bearing sealants. The big, and only advantage I know, of polypropylene is that it's not poisonous. Both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol have very nice sweet tastes. Drink ethylene and you'll die a slow and very painful death due to complete liver failure. Drink polypropylene and there'll no harm...look at candy bars and "healthbars"...they often contain polypropylene. Polypropylene is not poisonous. I've read that Switzerland mandates polypropylene in automobiles...ethylene is illegal. The danger of ethylene is that it will kill curious small children and dogs that drink it. Poly is expensive...$50+ a quart? Ethylene is ~$14 a quart.
Both of the above 2 coolants, will prevent rust in your block, heads, and radiator. Neither coolant will boil below ~350 degrees F. This means you coolant system is never pressurized! (Note; all the water must be gone.)
All the WWII US and English fighter planes used 100% ethylene glycol in their Merlin, Griffin,Allyson V-12 internal combustion engines.
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I use pure ethylene glycol in my 95 Seville SLS, my 97 T-bird, my 68 Corvette. Pretty close to putting pure ethylene into the C6.
Evans is polypropylene glycol with some additives...hopefully such as water pump bearing sealants. The big, and only advantage I know, of polypropylene is that it's not poisonous. Both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol have very nice sweet tastes. Drink ethylene and you'll die a slow and very painful death due to complete liver failure. Drink polypropylene and there'll no harm...look at candy bars and "healthbars"...they often contain polypropylene. Polypropylene is not poisonous. I've read that Switzerland mandates polypropylene in automobiles...ethylene is illegal. The danger of ethylene is that it will kill curious small children and dogs that drink it. Poly is expensive...$50+ a quart? Ethylene is ~$14 a quart.
Both of the above 2 coolants, will prevent rust in your block, heads, and radiator. Neither coolant will boil below ~350 degrees F. This means you coolant system is never pressurized! (Note; all the water must be gone.)
All the WWII US and English fighter planes used 100% ethylene glycol in their Merlin, Griffin,Allyson V-12 internal combustion engines.
Evans is polypropylene glycol with some additives...hopefully such as water pump bearing sealants. The big, and only advantage I know, of polypropylene is that it's not poisonous. Both polypropylene glycol and ethylene glycol have very nice sweet tastes. Drink ethylene and you'll die a slow and very painful death due to complete liver failure. Drink polypropylene and there'll no harm...look at candy bars and "healthbars"...they often contain polypropylene. Polypropylene is not poisonous. I've read that Switzerland mandates polypropylene in automobiles...ethylene is illegal. The danger of ethylene is that it will kill curious small children and dogs that drink it. Poly is expensive...$50+ a quart? Ethylene is ~$14 a quart.
Both of the above 2 coolants, will prevent rust in your block, heads, and radiator. Neither coolant will boil below ~350 degrees F. This means you coolant system is never pressurized! (Note; all the water must be gone.)
All the WWII US and English fighter planes used 100% ethylene glycol in their Merlin, Griffin,Allyson V-12 internal combustion engines.
Evans is currently a mix of propylene glycol and ethylene glycol and is rated low toxicity. Technically one usually dies from kidney failure due to the formation of calcium oxalate crystals in the kidneys.
I personally wouldn't use straight ethylene glycol in an engine as its formulated to be mixed with water. Evans is specifically formulated to be used without water. They've done the research, but as you say straight ethylene glycol has been used before but I don't know enough about it.
Last edited by lurch59; Jul 21, 2015 at 12:28 PM. Reason: clarity