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Old Aug 1, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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I am trading an 87 Vette for a 75 Vette of equal value. I live in PA. How do we go about paying taxes on a trade ?
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Sales tax is only charged on CASH difference paid. No sales tax on EVEN trades.
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Sales tax is only charged on CASH difference paid. No sales tax on EVEN trades.
This is what I was told at PennDOT in January when titling the Vette I got in a trade from out of state. Bring a signed Bill of Sale (by both parties) showing even trade.
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I am trading an 87 Vette for a 75 Vette of equal value. I live in PA. How do we go about paying taxes on a trade ?
Good question. I suspect the state would want to charge you on the value of '75 without regard to the value of the '87. I say this because, as most know, when trading a car for another thru a dealer, tax is charged on the amount of purchase after deducting the value of trade. But if you were to sell the potential trade in to another party avoiding the dealer, you'd be charged the full amount of the newly purchased car by the dealer (in most states, if not all).

It's probably best to contact the PA DMV to see what the law is and if there is a way of avoiding the tax. Perhaps it's possible to go to the DMV with the other party or produce documents to validate the trade and if he's from PA, they could do the title swaps at the same time verifying the transaction, hopefully eliminating tax consequencies.

Keep us posted.
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In NC, you pay the tax on the value of the vehicle you are getting, regardless of trade in, unless by a licensed dealer. If you trade with a dealer, you only pay tax on difference. From an individual, you pay full value based on valuation tables.
Save yourself a lot of fretting and bad information and Google your DMV laws in your state and you'll get exact and correct answers, not answers based on opinions or various state laws. If you don't care to research, stop by your local DMV and ask an employee. You'll wish you had Googled.
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Scroll down to the end of the third page in the link below, for how PA calculates sales tax on a trade. Normally, if no cash is exchanged, I would think that there shouldn't be any tax due.

PA, like most states, does have a vehicle understated value provision, in their tax law. This allows them to access additional tax, if they determine that you "under paid" for a vehicle. What this means, is if they determine that the 75 is worth $10,000, and the 87 is worth $5,000, they will tax you on the difference. There is an appeal process, but it might be hard to win, when you're dealing with a trade?

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...fs-buysell.pdf

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In NC, you pay the tax on the value of the vehicle you are getting, regardless of trade in, unless by a licensed dealer. If you trade with a dealer, you only pay tax on difference. From an individual, you pay full value based on valuation tables.
If I remember right, NC has a personal property tax. PA doesn't. NC residents pay an annual tax, based on the value of the vehicle. In PA you pay a one time 6 percent sales tax, on the actual cash paid for the vehicle. If there is a trade involved, you only pay tax on the cash difference paid, and from what I've seen, the tax law doesn't specify that a trade most involve a dealer. The law only refers to the parties involved as seller(s).
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Sales tax is only applied to cash differences paid. This applies in all 50 states. A sales tax only applies to cash spent. If you do and even trade....you have already paid the sales tax on the value of the car you're trading. The state does not tax you again in the value of your trade in.

I am certain, this is the same in all 50 states. No sales tax on even trades.

Now, you will pay a road and use tax when you license the car for the upcoming year. This should also be prorated based on the road and use tax already paid on your current car that you traded. Most people call this the tag cost or registration cost.
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Scroll down to the end of the third page in the link below, for how PA calculates sales tax on a trade. Normally, if no cash is exchanged, I would think that there shouldn't be any tax due.

PA, like most states, does have a vehicle understated value provision, in their tax law. This allows them to access additional tax, if they determine that you "under paid" for a vehicle. What this means, is if they determine that the 75 is worth $10,000, and the 87 is worth $5,000, they will tax you on the difference. There is an appeal process, but it might be hard to win, when you're dealing with a trade?

http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms...fs-buysell.pdf



If I remember right, NC has a personal property tax. PA doesn't. NC residents pay an annual tax, based on the value of the vehicle. In PA you pay a one time 6 percent sales tax, on the actual cash paid for the vehicle. If there is a trade involved, you only pay tax on the cash difference paid, and from what I've seen, the tax law doesn't specify that a trade most involve a dealer. The law only refers to the parties involved as seller(s).
NC also has a "road use tax" that is charged when you purchase or move a car/truck into NC in addition to annual property tax.
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Originally Posted by Vet76te
Sales tax is only applied to cash differences paid. This applies in all 50 states. A sales tax only applies to cash spent. If you do and even trade....you have already paid the sales tax on the value of the car you're trading. The state does not tax you again in the value of your trade in.

I am certain, this is the same in all 50 states. No sales tax on even trades.

Now, you will pay a road and use tax when you license the car for the upcoming year. This should also be prorated based on the road and use tax already paid on your current car that you traded. Most people call this the tag cost or registration cost.
This this is why I suggested you look up the laws in your state. As I said earlier, in NC if you trade with an individual, you pay the tax at purchase (they conveniently call road use tax in lieu of sales tax) based on the book value on file in Raleigh, even with an even trade. The tag cost/registration cost is an additional charge that you pay every year, as well as property tax every year. A dealer is different, you pay only on the difference. LOOK UP YOUR STATE LAW for correct info. I've bought about a dozen cars in NC since I moved here 6 years ago and I've had many discussions about the unfairness of paying sales tax on "book value" on even trades, and with the DMV, I've lost every argument.

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To the OP, the answer, based on my experience depends on which day you go to DMV and which employee you speak with. I would google the question and then go to the DMV with something in writing as a back up. To 65GGvert, of the seven states I have lived in, NC DMV is the least "user" friendly.
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To the OP, the answer, based on my experience depends on which day you go to DMV and which employee you speak with. I would google the question and then go to the DMV with something in writing as a back up. To 65GGvert, of the seven states I have lived in, NC DMV is the least "user" friendly.
And now they've added a new feature. You have to pay your property tax for the next year at the time of purchase. You can't register or renew registration until you pay your property tax for the year. This in addition to road use (purchase tax/sales tax) and registration and inspection fees. If you buy antique tags, you pay property tax on full value of the car and then NC will mail you back the refund between the difference in antique and regular tax within about 12 weeks. Antiques are valued for property tax at $500 instead of actual value, the only break you get in NC.
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Thanks all going to the notary Monday
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Burnt71
I am trading an 87 Vette for a 75 Vette of equal value. I live in PA. How do we go about paying taxes on a trade ?
Contact your DMV and ask.
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