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I am using lip seals in the pistons. If I eliminate the springs does this cause issues? Does anyone have experience with their brakes using lip seals without springs?
Thanks for your advice.
Last edited by ballen06; Dec 6, 2015 at 03:13 PM.
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Yes and do not leave the springs out. They are needed..
And hopefully you have the special tool to compress the lip seal so you can get them in the bore of the caliper without damage.,...UNLESS you plan in using another method.
And hopefully you have the special tool to compress the lip seal so you can get them in the bore of the caliper without damage.,...UNLESS you plan in using another method.
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OK .. thanks.. springs are in... dull screwdriver..
And hopefully you have the special tool to compress the lip seal so you can get them in the bore of the caliper without damage.,...UNLESS you plan in using another method.
I use a little tiny screwdriver to work the lip seal into place. But before trying to hammer the dust seals in grind a slight bevel on them so they'll go in without catching the edge of the bore and bending the seal.
When you're done inserting the piston with the lip seal should the piston move easily in and out? How do you know if the lip seal is in correctly and not damaged??? Thanks!!!!!
When you're done inserting the piston with the lip seal should the piston move easily in and out?
YES...somewhat. The spring behind the piston should be able to push the piston back out when it is on the table...but that also depends on if when pressing the piston inwards you keep it true to the bore. Also if you honed the bores...it will depend son how fine of a finish you honed them too.....assuming that they are stainless steel sleeved.
Originally Posted by wallifishrmn
How do you know if the lip seal is in correctly and not damaged??? Thanks!!!!!
By begin extremely careful and watching what you are doing. I have the correct tools that compress the lip seal and I can just push the piston down and they go right in. I have never spent the time trying to use a screwdriver or feeler gauge.
Years ago I bought a tool kit from one of the brake companies. It consisted of two stainless steel inserts, one for the back and one for the front. I would put the piston and seal in the insert and put the insert on the caliper bore and push the piston down into the caliper. I would use brake fluid as a lubricant. It is like using a ring compressor when building an engine. The kit also contained hard plastic pucks that were machined to fit the top seals, again, one for the front and a smaller one for the back. I would hit the puck with a hammer and that would seat the outer seal into the caliper. Doing it this way, you don't have to worry about nicking the inner lip with a screw driver or other tool. Jerry
I am rebuilding the brakes. Everything has go fine until it came to inserting the dust boots on the FRONT calipers. When I press the metal ring into the caliper--it pops right out. It's as if the ring is just a hair to small. The old ones were rusted when I took them out and now if I try the old ones they won't stay pressed in either. I repainted them put the new lip seals in, etc. The rear ones were fine but as I said the front metal ring will not stay in the bore. What gives????
I haven't done mine yet, but when I was reading up on how to do it, I came across this video. He puts the rings on at 15'...maybe it can help you
(edit: not especially helpful for Corvette brakes)
Last edited by D_Williams; Dec 14, 2015 at 07:31 AM.
Those brakes are different. The stock c3 brakes don't have a split ring--the metal ring is fused to the dust boot. The dust boot must be pressed into the groove around the piston. Since no one is responding, I may try red high temp silicone to hold it is place--used on intake manifolds, oil pans, etc.--good to 650F. Brakes can get up 500F and in track use push 650F.
YES...I AGREE...the above video is useless when comparing it to a Corvette 4 piston caliper.
AND ...YES...I would make sure the groove or land is CLEAN so whatever you put in the to hold the metal ring on your dust boot will stick....as I knwo you know...but other people may not...so I thought I would write it.
Seems like your choice in product to hold your dust boots in place may be the trick.