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Old Dec 16, 2015 | 02:38 PM
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Very Cool! What wheels did you choose? Very curious!!
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What was the original engine on this?
I can only assume it was a 427 but who knows. It had a 71 350 in it when we found it. It had a 4:56 rear and M21 (Scattershield housing)/.
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I can only assume it was a 427 but who knows. It had a 71 350 in it when we found it. It had a 4:56 rear and M21 (Scattershield housing)/.
It appears to be an original AC car. I'm not sure, does that preclude an L-71?
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It appears to be an original AC car. I'm not sure, does that preclude an L-71?
Not sure but my research indicated Motion added AC to cars regularly. I am pretty sure AC was available on all cars with exception of maybe an L88..
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Not sure but my research indicated Motion added AC to cars regularly. I am pretty sure AC was available on all cars with exception of maybe an L88..
WES?
If they added AC, it would have been an aftermarket setup, not original right?

If it had a single fuel line from the tank to the pump (no return line); that would mean it was originally equipped with a Holley (L-88) or Holleys (L-68, L-71, L-89). Presence of a return line would indicate a Rochester Quadrajet (small block or L-36). What's the tach redline?

I think the Motion body modification couldn't have been done before 1970 because that was when they came out with that style taillights.

Very cool car; too bad it can't talk.
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
If they added AC, it would have been an aftermarket setup, not original right?

If it had a single fuel line from the tank to the pump (no return line); that would mean it was originally equipped with a Holley (L-88) or Holleys (L-68, L-71, L-89). Presence of a return line would indicate a Rochester Quadrajet (small block or L-36). What's the tach redline?

I think the Motion body modification couldn't have been done before 1970 because that was when they came out with that style taillights.

Very cool car; too bad it can't talk.
Not sure about the tail lights. There is currently a 69 Phase 3 on ebay that has the horizontal tail lights. Appareny it is an authenticated car.
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Not sure about the tail lights. There is currently a 69 Phase 3 on ebay that has the horizontal tail lights. Apparently it is an authenticated car.
Yeah I guess you're right. According to that car's VIN, it was manufactured July 31, 1969. The '69's production was extended through December due to the strike.

I have an ad from the December, 1969 Hi-Performance Cars magazine still showing the stock taillights.





Not sure what the magazine lead times were in those days; probably 3 or 4 months and they may not have updated the ads right away. So they probably came out with those taillights in mid to late '69?
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One interesting side note. In the magazine articles back in the day you can tell they started with an L-71 because on the engine pics you'll see a hacked up throttle cable bracket from the 3x2s.




My buddy bought a '68 that was originally an L-71. It had a small block in it when he got it but it still had the hacked up 3x2 bracket just like the Motion cars.



And still had the Mallory coil that Motion used to market.



Edit: Just looked at the ad on Ebay. They restored it with the 3x2 bracket in place. Authentic restoration!



Bracket as it appeared on the 3x2 setup.



And another shot of a Motion motor.



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Originally Posted by avalonjohn
Not sure but my research indicated Motion added AC to cars regularly. I am pretty sure AC was available on all cars with exception of maybe an L88..
WES?
This from Marty Schorr's History Of Baldwin Motion Corvettes - Mr. Motion And His Corvettes - Part Two, "Aside from the obvious performance and styling that Corvette enthusiasts couldn't get from Chevrolet, the Baldwin-Motion GT Corvette offered an A/C option with its highest-horsepower solid-lifter engines. That's right, 500-plus-hp, open-chamber heads, solid lifter cam, and air conditioning! When a Baldwin-Motion Corvette customer ordered an ultra-high-performance powertrain and air conditioning, Rosen simply ordered the Corvette from Chevrolet with the highest-horsepower engine option that was available with air conditioning. With the in-car plumbing in place, it was possible to build a monster air-conditioned Corvette. To keep the revs down during high-speed cruising and extend air-conditioner compressor life, Rosen suggested also ordering a Hone Overdrive which worked with automatic as well as four-speed transmissions. It reduced the final drive ratio (numerically) by a full 30 percent (4.88/3.42:1)."
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Originally Posted by Kid Vette
This from Marty Schorr's History Of Baldwin Motion Corvettes - Mr. Motion And His Corvettes - Part Two, "Aside from the obvious performance and styling that Corvette enthusiasts couldn't get from Chevrolet, the Baldwin-Motion GT Corvette offered an A/C option with its highest-horsepower solid-lifter engines. That's right, 500-plus-hp, open-chamber heads, solid lifter cam, and air conditioning! When a Baldwin-Motion Corvette customer ordered an ultra-high-performance powertrain and air conditioning, Rosen simply ordered the Corvette from Chevrolet with the highest-horsepower engine option that was available with air conditioning. With the in-car plumbing in place, it was possible to build a monster air-conditioned Corvette. To keep the revs down during high-speed cruising and extend air-conditioner compressor life, Rosen suggested also ordering a Hone Overdrive which worked with automatic as well as four-speed transmissions. It reduced the final drive ratio (numerically) by a full 30 percent (4.88/3.42:1)."
Hey Kid
There is a guy in Santa Cruz that has lot of Big Block engine parts I am looking to buy some big dollar parts .Any chance I could pay you to look at them before I send him money ?
Also I have had breakfast with Marty Schoore and the same day lunch (on the other side of Florida) with Joel Rosen .Marty very nice guy
I used to Own Los Gatos Blvd Shell in the day .
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Yep love the motion striping.
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Hey Kid
There is a guy in Santa Cruz that has lot of Big Block engine parts I am looking to buy some big dollar parts .Any chance I could pay you to look at them before I send him money ?
Also I have had breakfast with Marty Schoore and the same day lunch (on the other side of Florida) with Joel Rosen .Marty very nice guy
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Ha! Small world!

Sure I'd be happy to have a look at the parts.
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So what Rims will you be using for your car? I know I had asked before, dont mean to bother... Thanks!
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Ha! Small world!

Sure I'd be happy to have a look at the parts.
Thanks
I am almost ready to paint my Motion Corvette
Merry Christmas
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So what Rims will you be using for your car? I know I had asked before, dont mean to bother... Thanks!
Hi Alex, not sure yet. As soon as the car is all together I will post pictures. Any suggestions?
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Hi Alex, not sure yet. As soon as the car is all together I will post pictures. Any suggestions?

Here, please see this Article about a Motion C3. As you know Motion put several types of Wheels on These cars. I personally like the American Racing Torque Thrust "early D wheel" the best. The back ones were 8.5 Inch wide as the front had sometimes smaller ones (7 or 8 I think) You will still find them... (the old d's from the sixties)


This car has them on! I love them...


http://www.corvette-mag.com/issues/6...3#.VnbAloJIhLM
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Hi Alex, not sure yet. As soon as the car is all together I will post pictures. Any suggestions?

You can purchase these from me her are original American Racing wheels late 60's vintage
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Very very nice! Love it.
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