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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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Is it possible to have a build date of March on trim tag, on the block pad T0310CGW and to have a sequence run 408027 which I thought was April production ?
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:39 AM
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Is it possible to have a build date of March on trim tag, on the block pad T0310CGW and to have a sequence run 408027 which I thought was April production ?
Keep in mind that the trim tag date is not the final assembly date of the vehicle.

Final production unit for March was 7977... Your car was built 50 units after that which falls into the very next day of production (April 1) based upon average daily assembly runs. If your tag reads C31, it places it in line with final assembly being a day or two later (which is typical). I can also tell you that from survey information, I have four cars built after yours, also with C31 trim tag dates so a March tag with an April final assembly looks to be correct for your car.

The engine assembly date falls three weeks prior to vehicle assembly which is also pretty typical.

As far as time sequencing goes, your car looks OK.

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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:52 AM
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Keep in mind that the trim tag date is not the final assembly date of the vehicle.

Final production unit for March was 7977... Your car was built 50 units after that which falls into the very next day of production (April 1) based upon average daily assembly runs. If your tag reads C31, it places it in line with final assembly being a day or two later (which is typical). I can also tell you that from survey information, I have four cars built after yours, also with C31 trim tag dates so a March tag with an April final assembly looks to be correct for your car.

The engine assembly date falls three weeks prior to vehicle assembly which is also pretty typical.

As far as time sequencing goes, your car looks OK.

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Haven't bought it yet, having it inspected , thought that would be worth the money. I am having him recheck the trim tag, he told me it read C32, which is impossible.I thought.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 09:56 AM
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haven't bought yet we are dealing on car. The one thing that I am having him recheck is on trim tag, C32. Never knew a month that had 32 days, is this possible????

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April fools !!
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Probably a mis-type (these things were hand-done, not computer created); or somebody wanted this car to be 'counted' in with March build, instead of April.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Probably a mis-type (these things were hand-done, not computer created); or somebody wanted this car to be 'counted' in with March build, instead of April.
Is this possible?
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Old Jan 23, 2016 | 08:29 AM
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Is this possible?
Ask for a good quality pic of the trim tag.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Probably..... somebody wanted this car to be 'counted' in with March build, instead of April.

If the plant's fiscal year began on April 1, I could see where someone in management would have wanted units counted in March in order to meet production goals for the year that's ending. Gotta maximize that production bonus!
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Old Jan 24, 2016 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
...Probably a mis-type...
Possibly, but should have been detected and corrected.

...somebody wanted this car to be 'counted' in with March build, instead of April...
Less likely.

Originally Posted by wendellp601
...If the plant's fiscal year began on April 1...
GM as a corporation may have operated on a fiscal year, but production was based on model year. The 70 model year began the first week of January, 1970 due to the strike the previous year.

Keep in mind at the time the car passed the station on the assembly line where the trim tag was attached, the car was not complete and would have required another working day, possibly a day and a half to have been completed. St. Louis considered cars complete the day the window sticker and car shipper were prepared and the car driven off the line and out to the transport lot.

If available for this car, an NCRS Shipping Data Report would confirm the date GM considered the car to be finished.

My somewhat WAG: Trim tag attached Monday, March 30, speculating the zero could be mistaken for a 2. Tuesday, March 31, car remains on the assembly line. Last car completed in March was #7977. Wednesday, April 1, #8027 is completed.



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Would this not have been built during the strike? If so, any "subs" on the line might do 'unusual' things to comply with management demands during that time. To be sure, more mistakes would have been made (typos, etc).

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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
...Would this not have been built during the strike?...
Nope. The strike shut down 1969 production. 1970 production was not affected other than the late date (1/1/70) for the start of the model year. The only joker for this 70 is whether the trim tag actually shows March 32nd.

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Originally Posted by Easy Mike
Nope. The strike shut down 1969 production. 1970 production was not affected other than the late date (1/1/70) for the start of the model year. The only joker for this 70 is whether the trim tag actually shows March 32nd.
Agreed about the trim tag...

But...

There was a strike in 1970. I am away from my reference material, but I think it was a teamsters strike that lasted 3 weeks to a month where the production line was stopped or extremely slowed.

only 337 cars were built in April 1970, so don't know when production stopped and when it was restarted..perhaps mid march to mid april, or early april to late april.. Don't know..Somebody clarify?

what is on the trim tags during this time frame is iffy....
Many of the cars during these dates have extended date ranges between casting and stamping and as a result, these cars have that little 'excuse' for being deviant.

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As I mentioned, I have four cars in my survey built shortly AFTER this car with A31 trim tag dates... I'll bet that this car is A31 as well.

The trim tag date always precedes the final assembly date by a day or two (in most cases)... This car isn't any different.

There was no GM/plant strike during the 1970 model year, but there was a teamster's strike in the April 1970 time frame.

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Old Jan 25, 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by joewill
...There was a strike in 1970...I think it was a teamsters strike...
You are correct. Licastro's book says assembly shut down from April 6 to May 6, 1970 due to parts shortages caused by a Teamster's Union strike.

Looks like the 70 in question squeaked by just before the strike.

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March 32nd makes sense to me....
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