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Old Mar 9, 2016 | 11:55 AM
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I'm getting ready to pull my '74 L48 M20 out of the garage and one of the first things I need to do is fill it up. I purchased the roadster last summer and this will be my first gas stop. The only thing available here is E10 in 87,89 and 92 octane. What fuel would you recommend I use? The engine is stock original with 37K miles on the clock. It runs strong with no noticeable smoke or ping. Thanks in advance.
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I'm getting ready to pull my '74 L48 M20 out of the garage and one of the first things I need to do is fill it up. I purchased the roadster last summer and this will be my first gas stop. The only thing available here is E10 in 87,89 and 92 octane. What fuel would you recommend I use? The engine is stock original with 37K miles on the clock. It runs strong with no noticeable smoke or ping. Thanks in advance.
Unless you push it hard you will be fine with 87 .
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I agree. If it doesn't ping using 87, then that's all you need.
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Originally Posted by bj1k
...you will be fine with 87...
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...I agree. If it doesn't ping using 87, then that's all you need...
Well put. Your car will certainly enjoy 92 octane, but 87 is fine.
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Higher octane than you need is just wasted money and will provide no benefit.. That engine was designed to run on 87 Octane..
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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
Higher octane than you need is just wasted money and will provide no benefit.. That engine was designed to run on 87 Octane..
Starting in 1971, Chevrolet reduced the compression ratio on all of their engines, to allow them to run on regular unleaded. A stock 74 L-48, should run just fine, on any of today's regulars.
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Put in the 92, really how much are you driving the car that a little extra savings at the pump is going to make a difference. I think you will notice the difference in performance with the 92 anyway.
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The calorific value of all pump gas is the same. Higher octane will not increase the performance of his car.
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I too say go for the lowest. When I bought my 78 I made the mistake of putting 91 in it, and it ran like crap. Followed a friend's advice and used 85 (regular in Colorado), and it runs like a charm.
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If I have a big enuf audience, I've been known to reach for the "93" pump!! Gotta agree tho, 87 works just fine. Have a great week, Bill
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Originally Posted by resdoggie
The calorific value of all pump gas is the same. Higher octane will not increase the performance of his car.
Because of his specific engine? Compression? Not arguing just curious, maybe just basing on earlier model engine performance where i definitely noticed difference. Maybe just in my head.
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He has a low compression engine so low octane gas is all that is required. Older hipo cars had a lot higher compression and required high octane. Todays hipo cars are a whole new breed with lots more power, higher compressions like a lot of older hipo cars but can run on 91 octane.
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Originally Posted by resdoggie
He has a low compression engine so low octane gas is all that is required. Older hipo cars had a lot higher compression and required high octane. Todays hipo cars are a whole new breed with lots more power, higher compressions like a lot of older hipo cars but can run on 91 octane.
Thanks, didn't realize his compression was that low
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Octane rating is simply the fuels ability to resist igniting under pressure before the spark plug fires.. { DETONATION} 93 Oct produces no more power than 87 octane .. It only allows high compression pressures without detonating before spark. Putting 93 in a car designed for 87 will not improve performance or cleaning , engine life or anything else .. Its a MYTH
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On the flip side to the above, if you put 87 in an engine that requires 93, then you will get ping. On newer cars, the engine knock sensor will detect the ping and retard the timing i.e. loss in power.
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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
Higher octane than you need is just wasted money and will provide no benefit.. That engine was designed to run on 87 Octane..
This is correct, one of the few instances where more expensive is not better......
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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
Octane rating is simply the fuels ability to resist igniting under pressure before the spark plug fires.. { DETONATION} 93 Oct produces no more power than 87 octane .. It only allows high compression pressures without detonating before spark. Putting 93 in a car designed for 87 will not improve performance or cleaning , engine life or anything else .. Its a MYTH
Well, yes with a little clarification. Marginal fuel will ignite first at the spark plug, then the increased pressure will spontaneously ignite in other parts of the combustion chamber. This is the ping that is called spontaneous combustion. True predetonation will destroy an engine very quickly.
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Originally Posted by fishslayer143
Higher octane than you need is just wasted money and will provide no benefit.. That engine was designed to run on 87 Octane..
unless it's been modified.
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Originally Posted by 694speed350
unless it's been modified.
The OP stated it had not been.. and if it is modified ,then its no longer as designed, hence the word MODIFIED ... I stand by my statement, if the engine is designed to run on 87 octane, there is absolutely no benefit to using 93 octane. None. Its a myth
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Originally Posted by mickey5
I'm getting ready to pull my '74 L48 M20 out of the garage and one of the first things I need to do is fill it up. I purchased the roadster last summer and this will be my first gas stop. The only thing available here is E10 in 87,89 and 92 octane. What fuel would you recommend I use? The engine is stock original with 37K miles on the clock. It runs strong with no noticeable smoke or ping. Thanks in advance.
My 73 did fine on 89 octane until I monkeyed around with the timing. Once I advanced it to a point I like the way it runs, I needed to use 93 octane for those "fun" moments.
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