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That duntov was sold turn key and ACI parts were on it Duntov said white on red convertibles only, it wasn't popular, still isn't over any other nicely built wide body, it got so bad they started painting them other colors and I think there was even coupes,
I do not know that martin turbo car ( gm built the car martin or someone added the turbo and trim ) but I do know in the 70's into the 80's places like motion sold kits to slap a single small to medium turbo on a v 8, normally the cats buying the kit put them on low hp cars and when the turbo spooled up they thought they had the baddest thing since a ZL-1 or L-88 like when we were in high school and thought shift kits added 200 HP truth was they didn't add all that much power just cruise spot bragging rights,
I really cant see anyone shelling out 50K for that car, a person could buy a far better wilder meaner restro mod for that or cheaper....
Rare? Maybe. But that does not make it valuable. It must also be desirable along with rare to be worth anything to the masses. I never heard of them. And probably for good reason.
Just to change our perspective a little bit, the car and buyer are in the UK. I'm not sure what the C3 pricing structure is like over there, but rarity would be a given regardless, and then you add on the fact that it was a limited edition, and that very well could be worth the asking price. Here? Probably not. There? Understandable.
Just to change our perspective a little bit, the car and buyer are in the UK. I'm not sure what the C3 pricing structure is like over there, but rarity would be a given regardless, and then you add on the fact that it was a limited edition, and that very well could be worth the asking price. Here? Probably not. There? Understandable.
I could be wrong but I would think a better c3 could be found over there or imported for 50k or less, I just do not see an 80 c3 with tacked on turbo being all that "special"
I could be wrong but I would think a better c3 could be found over there or imported for 50k or less, I just do not see an 80 c3 with tacked on turbo being all that "special"
Try to look at it from 'not your' perspective. C3 Corvettes are very common here. I suspect they are much harder to find there and they are probably more expensive across the whole spectrum of years and trim levels. Think about the UK cars that are popular here and fetch high money when in the UK they are a dime a dozen. To you and me it's just another undesirable late C3. To someone in the UK, it's more of a prize.
I could be wrong but I would think a better c3 could be found over there or imported for 50k or less, I just do not see an 80 c3 with tacked on turbo being all that "special"
Bats. You're correct and the car in question is not my cup of tea, it's a work colleague that is looking at it but after I sent him the info provided by MelWff his interest has dropped somewhat but not gone completely yet.
Originally Posted by Mark Riles
Try to look at it from 'not your' perspective. C3 Corvettes are very common here. I suspect they are much harder to find there and they are probably more expensive across the whole spectrum of years and trim levels. Think about the UK cars that are popular here and fetch high money when in the UK they are a dime a dozen. To you and me it's just another undesirable late C3. To someone in the UK, it's more of a prize.
Mark. Again, you too are correct. Before I bought my first C3 I looked at many that were downright nasty. I fell very lucky finding a fresh import '72 that was very unmolested (my style, sorry Bats ) at a fair price that turned out even better that I originally thought that drives fantastic.
My other a '71 I bought from a USA seller and imported it myself for more than the Martin car is being offered for but there just weren't any cars that matched my requirement available in the UK.
Thanks for all the replies and we'll continue to research this car.
Try to look at it from 'not your' perspective. C3 Corvettes are very common here. I suspect they are much harder to find there and they are probably more expensive across the whole spectrum of years and trim levels. Think about the UK cars that are popular here and fetch high money when in the UK they are a dime a dozen. To you and me it's just another undesirable late C3. To someone in the UK, it's more of a prize.
I really am trying and I believe my issue is this isn't a special car to many people me being one, it's not a Motion, Or Greenwood or any of the other names vette savvy people recognize the price is ridiculous, if it was say a super low miles stock example same year then perhaps I could apply that "not in the USA" slant...but in the us that car would be super lucky to fetch 12-14K it's hard for me to accept that ship it overseas and it's worth 50K
Originally Posted by brit vet
Bats. You're correct and the car in question is not my cup of tea, it's a work colleague that is looking at it but after I sent him the info provided by MelWff his interest has dropped somewhat but not gone completely yet.
Mark. Again, you too are correct. Before I bought my first C3 I looked at many that were downright nasty. I fell very lucky finding a fresh import '72 that was very unmolested (my style, sorry Bats ) at a fair price that turned out even better that I originally thought that drives fantastic.
My other a '71 I bought from a USA seller and imported it myself for more than the Martin car is being offered for but there just weren't any cars that matched my requirement available in the UK.
Thanks for all the replies and we'll continue to research this car.
Stuart
Nothing to be sorry for, sure I dig personalizing these cars more than factory stock but where some purists like to be belittling on each and every modded car they see I have a great respect for a nice stock car, VB's 69 is one of my favorites, I love Alans car for what it is ( I am in awe of it and him ) , pauls 74 is super sweet wouldn't do a thing to it,
If the car is question was a bone stock nice c3 I could see 50K perhaps more depending on the car it's just in this case I do not see the mods helping and it should be only slightly more as any other same condition 80 vette, no matter where in the world it is...but I am trying hard to add $$$ to it just because it's over seas...
Around 91 I sold my 81 wide body a very nice radical custom, the LEO who bought it took a hit to flip it in a hurry and gave it to rogers corvettes of Orlando, in turn it was added to a "collection" that when overseas, when I asked about it, the saleman said that overseas my wide body was worth many, many times what it was here...
Try to look at it from 'not your' perspective. C3 Corvettes are very common here. I suspect they are much harder to find there and they are probably more expensive across the whole spectrum of years and trim levels. Think about the UK cars that are popular here and fetch high money when in the UK they are a dime a dozen. To you and me it's just another undesirable late C3. To someone in the UK, it's more of a prize.
Well, if you ever watch the TV show Wheeler Dealers which is based in the UK then your theory pretty much goes out the window. These guys have bough MANY cars from the US, fix them up, then sell them. They certainly do not spend too much to ship them over there. The show is also not a drama fest but a pretty much 'how to' show.
That pretty much means that any UK buyer can buy ANY car from here in the USA land of plenty and get a better deal then spending $50k for some custom shop special just because its already there. Even with the shipping cost. If this was a "name brand" car such as a Yenko, Motion, Berger or something on that level then maybe. Martin? They make good guitars, not C3's that I'm aware of.
Last edited by ed427vette; May 25, 2016 at 05:05 PM.
Well, if you ever watch the TV show Wheeler Dealers which is based in the UK then your theory pretty much goes out the window. These guys have bough MANY cars from the US, fix them up, then sell them. They certainly do not spend too much to ship them over there. The show is also not a drama fest but a pretty much 'how to' show.
That pretty much means that any UK buyer can buy ANY car from here in the USA land of plenty and get a better deal then spending $50k for some custom shop special just because its already there. Even with the shipping cost. If this was a "name brand" car such as a Yenko, Motion, Berger or something on that level then maybe. Martin? They make good guitars, not C3's that I'm aware of.
With all due respect ed, Wheeler Dealers is not the greatest of example to use. The figures they admit are the cheapest you can get and based on a car being shipped at low cost / low speed that MAY be featured in the next season run and in no need to get to the destination in short order.. No labour cost is ever factored into any build and profits are minimal to the point where a business doing this would fail in short order if it weren't for the fact it's a program, a program that makes money.
In addition to the shipping cost there is import duty (read TAX) at 5% of the vehicles value. Then it has to be checked for UK conformity (read TAX) then it has to be registered (TAX) then it has to be given a registration mark (TAX) Then add into the mix the exchange rate, it's an expensive hobby importing cars and is not without significant risk.
I assume it's the same going the other way from the UK to whatever destination ?
Stuart
Last edited by brit vet; May 25, 2016 at 05:41 PM.
Well, if you ever watch the TV show Wheeler Dealers which is based in the UK then your theory pretty much goes out the window. These guys have bough MANY cars from the US, fix them up, then sell them. They certainly do not spend too much to ship them over there. The show is also not a drama fest but a pretty much 'how to' show.
That pretty much means that any UK buyer can buy ANY car from here in the USA land of plenty and get a better deal then spending $50k for some custom shop special just because its already there. Even with the shipping cost. If this was a "name brand" car such as a Yenko, Motion, Berger or something on that level then maybe. Martin? They make good guitars, not C3's that I'm aware of.
Brit vet, if you have some special reason to defend this example tell me and I will shut up, but otherwise I still do not care where that car is located it's not a 50K car....
Shouldn't the fact the the seller is saying GM built this custom job be enough to write them off as being less than trust worthy?
When looking at specialty cars to me one piece of BS can ruin the whole BBQ
Last edited by The13Bats; May 25, 2016 at 05:47 PM.
Brit vet, if you have some special reason to defend this example tell me and I will shut up, but otherwise I still do not care where that car is located it's not a 50K car....
Shouldn't the fact the the seller is saying GM built this custom job be enough to write them off as being less than trust worthy?
When looking at specialty cars to me one piece of BS can ruin the whole BBQ
Bats. I said this car wasn't my cup of tea and I have no reason to defend it in the slightest.
The interest in this car is from a serious car nut that works for me. He's currently having a frame on resto on a 59 caddy but he enjoys the hunt for cars more than the car itself and he's always looking for the next 'hunt'. He does have a good eye but he came to me through my passion for Corvettes.
I respect your opinion and have expressed that to Dean along with other information and opinions expressed but it's his choice at the end of the day to take the info on board or not.