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Old Jun 21, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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I have a '75 vert last winter I did a 4spd conversion. Installed a super t10 with a hurst shifter. I was told the 4spd was rebuilt. Upon installation I installed new clutch, bronze bushing , new throw out bearing. Now after about 800 miles the trans won't go into first or third gear when I try to shift into those gears it grinds. Any help would be appreciated thanks
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 11:27 AM
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did you check if anything has loosened in the clutch linkage?
did you check if you have the correct clutch adjustment?
did you check if the shift levers/rods are properly adjusted?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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did you check if anything has loosened in the clutch linkage?
did you check if you have the correct clutch adjustment?
did you check if the shift levers/rods are properly adjusted?
I am hoping its the shifter linkage needing adjusting. The clutch linkage looked good and tight.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 02:42 PM
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Rookie here.......I had a similar problem back in the day that kept getting worse..........the trans would "ease" out of 3rd gear/it worsened until the trans would "pop" out of 3rd gear/finally it started grinding going into 4th gear. I vaguely remember something about the bronze synchronizers and a scarred gear shaft.

How is the oil level/does the oil look "dirty or thin"?
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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Rookie here.......I had a similar problem back in the day that kept getting worse..........the trans would "ease" out of 3rd gear/it worsened until the trans would "pop" out of 3rd gear/finally it started grinding going into 4th gear. I vaguely remember something about the bronze synchronizers and a scarred gear shaft.

How is the oil level/does the oil look "dirty or thin"?
Oil level should be good I filled it when I installed it last November. Even with car not running it won't stay in first gear. It just falls back to neutral.
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Old Jun 22, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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I have a '75 vert last winter I did a 4spd conversion. Installed a super t10 with a hurst shifter. I was told the 4spd was rebuilt. Upon installation I installed new clutch, bronze bushing , new throw out bearing. Now after about 800 miles the trans won't go into first or third gear when I try to shift into those gears it grinds. Any help would be appreciated thanks
I really hate to break the news to you but I had the same exact problem that you described after putting everything in new and it turned out to be a defective bronze bushing . I bought it at Advance auto parts and told them that I wanted their best stock bushing . The tolerances were too tight and it seized letting the front trans shaft keep spinning causing the grinding . I bought a good quality needle bearing at Napa and it works fine. All of that work because of the cheap crap that they are selling.
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Old Jun 23, 2016 | 06:56 AM
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I really hate to break the news to you but I had the same exact problem that you described after putting everything in new and it turned out to be a defective bronze bushing . I bought it at Advance auto parts and told them that I wanted their best stock bushing . The tolerances were too tight and it seized letting the front trans shaft keep spinning causing the grinding . I bought a good quality needle bearing at Napa and it works fine. All of that work because of the cheap crap that they are selling.
I don't remember where I bought that bushing. Either Napa or advance auto. The only adjusting on the hurst shifter is the stops. So if that doesn't help I may replace that bushing. Was it hard to get it back off the shaft?
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I always thought Hurst Shifters had a neutral pin for adjustments. The problems sound like synchronizers to me or poor shift linkage adjustment.
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I always thought Hurst Shifters had a neutral pin for adjustments. The problems sound like synchronizers to me or poor shift linkage adjustment.
kinda agree, if it were the pilot bushing being bad wouldn't that affect every gear?
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Originally Posted by The Punisher
Oil level should be good I filled it when I installed it last November. Even with car not running it won't stay in first gear. It just falls back to neutral.
get under the car, disconnect the linkage and push the side lever into gear to see if it is an internal problem or a linkage problem
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Originally Posted by The Punisher
kinda agree, if it were the pilot bushing being bad wouldn't that affect every gear?
Yes, especially reverse.
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Originally Posted by The Punisher
kinda agree, if it were the pilot bushing being bad wouldn't that affect every gear?
If it is the pilot bushing seized then the front shaft would spin all of the time and will grind if you try to put it in any gear when the engine is running . I think you will find that to be the problem . There seems to be a problem with the bronze bushings.
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Ok , I fixed it. It was the first/third gear shift stop. It had come loose and backed out. So I adjusted it and tightened it back down. Man I am so glad it was an easy fix. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions
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Originally Posted by The Punisher
Ok , I fixed it. It was the first/third gear shift stop. It had come loose and backed out. So I adjusted it and tightened it back down. Man I am so glad it was an easy fix. Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions
And it didn't cost an arm or leg or both.

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