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Hello, I am starting the restore process of my vette that i purchased. The vette is suppose to be a number matching 427 390hp. I started going though it and the engine stamp just seems off to me. Is this how they normally look? I looked at other threads that were similar.
Thank you
Vin
Engine Stamp
Last edited by raven1708; Feb 6, 2017 at 03:41 PM.
Other than being painted, looks good to me. If you decide to remove the paint, just be careful what you use and DO NOT scratch the surface of the stamp pad. Your motor was built 5 days before mine.
Other than being painted, looks good to me. If you decide to remove the paint, just be careful what you use and DO NOT scratch the surface of the stamp pad. Your motor was built 5 days before mine.
K Thank you just they way the 0108 looked seemed a little funny.
Hi r,
Welcome! First Posts!
Restoring a 69, 427 car! Very nice!
What is it about the stamp that seems "off" to you?
It's really difficult to form an opinion about a stamp pad when there's paint on the pad.
You should probably remove the paint using a non abrasive method. You just want to remove the paint…. you don't want to change anything about the stamp or the pad's surface.
You might for instance use some lacquer thinner on a rag or a paint remover with no abrasive in it.
Don't use any kind of sand paper or wire brush on it.
Then post some more photos and you'll get all the opinions you'll be able to stand!
Regards,
Alan
As FR mentioned the SAME stamp is used at the SAME time to stamp the transmission case. Look for it on the side of the rear case.
Is this 'swoop in the paint or in the surface of the pad?
You need to clean ALL the paint off the engine pad as others have stated, again without anything abrasive. I too would like a pic of the trans Vin derivative. Also post another pic of the pillar vin plate after removing the pillar molding. Ithe looks to be painted over and I cannot see the original rivets, seems strange.
Joe
Maybe it is just me but it looks like after someone painted the pad (it was not this way from the factory) they went over the numbers with a white paint? Maybe wiped it on so you could read the numbers and make them stand out? If that is the case maybe that is why the numbers look a little smeared. Again, maybe it is just me.
I can tell you (in my opinion) the placement of the engine build date and suffix indicate it was stamped with head off, which is how big blocks were originally, so that is good.
Was the engine rebuilt at one time?
I totally agree with everyone here. CAREFULLY remove all the paint from the pad with a non-abrasive. After that, post up some clear pictures.
Last edited by avalonjohn; Feb 6, 2017 at 04:34 PM.
Maybe it is just me but it looks like after someone painted the pad (it was not this way from the factory) they went over the numbers with a white paint? Maybe wiped it on so you could read the numbers and make them stand out? If that is the case maybe that is why the numbers look a little smeared. Again, maybe it is just me.
I can tell you (in my opinion) the placement of the engine build date and suffix indicate it was stamped with head off, which is how big blocks were originally, so that is good.
Was the engine rebuilt at one time?
I totally agree with everyone here. CAREFULLY remove all the paint from the pad with a non-abrasive. After that, post up some clear pictures.
I purchased it from New York. A corvette restoration place closed down/went under (not really sure what happened) and they auctioned off a lot of corvette and parts. It was listed as having the frame and engine rebuilt. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191886698641
I just got it into the body shop to have the body fixed and repainted. Also replacing the front clip with one from corvette image (press molded) and a new BB hood as well. I recently just ordered Rick Bizzoco book to look into what correct parts i should have and will be order the ncrs one as well. Over the next couple of days i will stop by the body shop and carefully remove the paint on the pad and upload pics from it and get the tranny case pics as well.
Thank you for all the help!
Ben
I purchased it from New York. A corvette restoration place closed down/went under (not really sure what happened) and they auctioned off a lot of corvette and parts. It was listed as having the frame and engine rebuilt. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191886698641
I just got it into the body shop to have the body fixed and repainted. Also replacing the front clip with one from corvette image (press molded) and a new BB hood as well. I recently just ordered Rick Bizzoco book to look into what correct parts i should have and will be order the ncrs one as well. Over the next couple of days i will stop by the body shop and carefully remove the paint on the pad and upload pics from it and get the tranny case pics as well.
Thank you for all the help!
Ben
The stamp looks pretty good as far as the characters and fonts go.
Wipe the pad carefully, gentley with lacquer thinner and a soft cloth. Do not scratch it up as the broach marks are an important part of the pad and can be used to indentify an original pad. There is a company that can indentify the pattern of the marks to a time frame from when the engine was originally decked. The company is CCAS. So, be gentle.
I purchased it from New York. A corvette restoration place closed down/went under (not really sure what happened) and they auctioned off a lot of corvette and parts. It was listed as having the frame and engine rebuilt. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/191886698641
I just got it into the body shop to have the body fixed and repainted. Also replacing the front clip with one from corvette image (press molded) and a new BB hood as well. I recently just ordered Rick Bizzoco book to look into what correct parts i should have and will be order the ncrs one as well. Over the next couple of days i will stop by the body shop and carefully remove the paint on the pad and upload pics from it and get the tranny case pics as well.
Thank you for all the help!
Ben
Good deal. Looks nicely optioned. AC, Tilt / Tele, 4Spd.
The carburetor is not original. That is a sticker shocker there (for an original). wise choice on the Bizocco book. Ebay has it for $69 (?) through Crane Corvette. Probably the best price around. Looking forward to the progress!
Hi r,
Welcome! First Posts!
Restoring a 69, 427 car! Very nice!
What is it about the stamp that seems "off" to you?
It's really difficult to form an opinion about a stamp pad when there's paint on the pad.
You should probably remove the paint using a non abrasive method. You just want to remove the paint…. you don't want to change anything about the stamp or the pad's surface.
You might for instance use some lacquer thinner on a rag or a paint remover with no abrasive in it.
Don't use any kind of sand paper or wire brush on it.
Then post some more photos and you'll get all the opinions you'll be able to stand!
Regards,
Alan
As FR mentioned the SAME stamp is used at the SAME time to stamp the transmission case. Look for it on the side of the rear case.
Is this 'swoop in the paint or in the surface of the pad?
Hello,
I finally had a free moment to go to the shop to look at the tranny. Unfortunately and sadden to find out that it doesn't appear to be the original one for the car. I can make out cco and 38124 on it. Unless i am looking at the wrong spot . Any other place i should check? also i did check and see the rivets on the main vin. I will upload those pic monday.
I will also be removing the paint on the engine stamp pad. I did look it over and it actually seems to rises up to the stamp. I wondering if it was from when they painted it? Hopefully Monday i will have the paint removed carefully to see.
Also I did try to find out what the CC0 meant and it seems that it was a warranty replacement done on the transmission. I have read that the first letter C could stand for chevrolet or Counter and the second C meant case. The 3 number was for the year 70?
Thank you
Last edited by raven1708; Feb 10, 2017 at 09:05 AM.
Hi r,
I believe that's the typical location for the transmission stamps.
There were typically 2 stamps:
The first identifies the transmission and when it was assembled.
The second identifies what car the transmission was first installed in.
I'm not familiar enough with transmissions to even guess what the stamps on your transmission might indicate.
Hopefully someone else will!
Regards,
Alan
Engines replaced under warranty had different stamps than the engines used in production… perhaps the same is true for transmissions?
69 427 Engine Stamp
. Any other place i should check? also i did check and see the rivets on the main vin. I will upload those pic monday. 