C3 General General C3 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is this a real LT-1?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 11, 2017 | 06:24 PM
  #1  
jigoe007's Avatar
jigoe007
Thread Starter
Instructor
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 116
Likes: 17
From: Lometa, TX
Default Is this a real LT-1?

I saw this on eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Chevrol...m=252765997728

It doesn't have the 6500 rpm redline tach.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2017 | 07:28 PM
  #2  
ddawson's Avatar
ddawson
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 5,739
Likes: 644
From: Lincoln, CA
Default

Even has a Q-jet. Looks more like a BBC car with a small block now.

Without the actual engine it's not an LT1 anyway.
Reply
Old Feb 11, 2017 | 07:52 PM
  #3  
JohnnyQuik's Avatar
JohnnyQuik
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 226
Likes: 108
From: Crescent Beach, FL
Default

LT1 was an engine option. Without the LT1 engine, it's just another non-matching numbers SB Corvette with some stickers. It's possible they replaced the tach when they put in a lower revving replacement engine, but I doubt it. It does look like a nice car, but it's not worth a premium over any other "base" SB '71.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 02:13 AM
  #4  
zebebad's Avatar
zebebad
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 181
Likes: 19
From: West Lower Mich.
Default

Sorry but I really do not agree that a 70-72 LT-1 Corvette is not an LT-1 anymore just because the engine it was born with has been replaced with a different engine for what ever the reason , no more than a 69 or 70 Chevelle or Camaro SS-396 or Z-28 are and always will be a high dollar sought after Muscle car even without their original vin matching engine. As long as it is represented as NOM being having the engine replaced at some point. The rare 70-72 LT-1 Corvettes deserve the same respect and value's as one of the few that were produced and still exist today .

Last edited by zebebad; Feb 12, 2017 at 02:18 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:02 AM
  #5  
Alan 71's Avatar
Alan 71
Team Owner
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 120 Days
Community Influencer
Top Answer: 5
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 31,301
Likes: 4,389
From: Westminster Maryland
Default

Hi j,
I don't see anything in the photos that indicated this car left St.Louis as an LT-!.
There are some things that could be checked in person that might be an indication of how it was originally built.
Regards,
Alan
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 08:59 AM
  #6  
Easy Mike's Avatar
Easy Mike
Team Owner
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 38,923
Likes: 1,482
From: Southbound
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

Originally Posted by zebebad
...Sorry but I really do not agree that a 70-72 LT-1 Corvette is not an LT-1 anymore just because the engine it was born with has been replaced with a different engine for what ever the reason...
Okay. What would be your definition of an LT-1 without the original LT-1?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 09:44 AM
  #7  
Faster Rat's Avatar
Faster Rat
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,079
Likes: 315
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by zebebad
Sorry but I really do not agree that a 70-72 LT-1 Corvette is not an LT-1 anymore just because the engine it was born with has been replaced with a different engine for what ever the reason , no more than a 69 or 70 Chevelle or Camaro SS-396 or Z-28 are and always will be a high dollar sought after Muscle car even without their original vin matching engine. As long as it is represented as NOM being having the engine replaced at some point. The rare 70-72 LT-1 Corvettes deserve the same respect and value's as one of the few that were produced and still exist today .
Noble idea but not supported by current market participants. Without documentation, it is just another disrespected car with a story. If you want to pay more for the story..go right ahead.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 09:54 AM
  #8  
Don Rickles's Avatar
Don Rickles
Race Director
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,189
Likes: 206
2018 Corvette of Year Finalist
2017 C3 of Year
Default

Originally Posted by Faster Rat
Noble idea but not supported by current market participants. Without documentation, it is just another disrespected car with a story. If you want to pay more for the story..go right ahead.
Sorry to disagree but exactly how many L88's are out there without their factory "born with" engines? They are no longer L88's? Market shows they still receive the "respect" they deserve.....
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:15 AM
  #9  
Faster Rat's Avatar
Faster Rat
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,079
Likes: 315
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by War Bonnet
Sorry to disagree but exactly how many L88's are out there without their factory "born with" engines? They are no longer L88's? Market shows they still receive the "respect" they deserve.....
Probably only a handful. The ones that are respected with a big wallet have documentation, provenance, or both. Many have race history. A better comparison would be all the NOM L71s out there. Would you pay six figures for one, especially without any authentic documentation?
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:33 AM
  #10  
Don Rickles's Avatar
Don Rickles
Race Director
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 10,189
Likes: 206
2018 Corvette of Year Finalist
2017 C3 of Year
Default

Originally Posted by Faster Rat
Probably only a handful. The ones that are respected with a big wallet have documentation, provenance, or both. Many have race history. A better comparison would be all the NOM L71s out there. Would you pay six figures for one, especially without any authentic documentation?
I'd wager many more than we know! But I'm not disagreeing the dollar amounts at all.

We are talking about whether or not a car that left the factory as a specific model, lost it's original motor, should still be considered what model it was originally. My reply is yes, the vehicle would still be what it was with a different/restored motor.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:41 AM
  #11  
kenba's Avatar
kenba
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,849
Likes: 367
From: PHOENIX AZ. WHAT A MAN WON"T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE
Default

That Corvette did not leave the factory with the LT-1 option.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:42 AM
  #12  
LT-1 kid's Avatar
LT-1 kid
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 2,150
Likes: 285
From: cary Il
Default

that car seems like its a base SB with a LT-1 hood.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 10:43 AM
  #13  
kenba's Avatar
kenba
Safety Car
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
Veteran: Army
Liked
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,849
Likes: 367
From: PHOENIX AZ. WHAT A MAN WON"T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE
Default

Originally Posted by War Bonnet
I'd wager many more than we know! But I'm not disagreeing the dollar amounts at all.

We are talking about whether or not a car that left the factory as a specific model, lost it's original motor, should still be considered what model it was originally. My reply is yes, the vehicle would still be what it was with a different/restored motor.
You are correct. It is what it was regardless of what pieces are missing.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 11:12 AM
  #14  
Dynra Rockets's Avatar
Dynra Rockets
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,152
Likes: 252
Default

Originally Posted by LT-1 kid
that car seems like its a base SB with a LT-1 hood.
Agreed. The metal fan shroud says base L48 without AC to me.

Last edited by Dynra Rockets; Feb 12, 2017 at 11:13 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 11:20 AM
  #15  
Faster Rat's Avatar
Faster Rat
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 3,079
Likes: 315
2024 C3 of the Year Finalist - Unmodified
Default

Originally Posted by War Bonnet
I'd wager many more than we know! But I'm not disagreeing the dollar amounts at all.

We are talking about whether or not a car that left the factory as a specific model, lost it's original motor, should still be considered what model it was originally. My reply is yes, the vehicle would still be what it was with a different/restored motor.
I meant to say only a handful of the L88s still have their original motors...according to someone in the know. We are talking about proof that a car left the factory as a specific model. Stories do not count as proof and have no market value...at least to knowledgeable buyers.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 11:25 AM
  #16  
68ACADIAN's Avatar
68ACADIAN
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 1,528
Likes: 24
From: Calgary Alberta
Default

I would stay away from it. I'm sure there is a "real" '71 LT1 matching numbered car out there for sale. Keep looking if that's what you're after...........Just my own thoughts.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 11:44 AM
  #17  
zebebad's Avatar
zebebad
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 181
Likes: 19
From: West Lower Mich.
Default

I had a Very Rare garnet red SS-396 Chevelle 300 deluxe Post Sedan with a bench seat, rubber floor mat, and a 3 speed on the floor that I bought back in the 80's without the drivetrain I paid $125.00. Yes it needed everything but all was there other than the drivetrain 10 yrs later that same car was sold on ebay for over $13,000 . In the same shape I bought it for to a guy that totally restored it with a date coded motor trans ect. to original factory show room or even better as it came off the assembly line. 1969 was the Only year you could get an SS-396 package on the 300 Deluxe 2dr Post sedan car ( Low price Base Model Chevelle ) GM only made a handful of these cars as most buyers did not know the SS-396 package could be ordered this way and most all they knew and wanted was the hard top with the bucket seats ,4 speed, ect. This rare car without the drivetrain it was born with does not make it a Chevelle Malibu . I have followed the restoration of this car and the experts I have read believe there is maybe less than 2-5 of these cars ever built with the color garnet red. The car today is a piece of History that was saved from the scraper for future generations to admire and understand what was available back in the day that could be ordered from GM. I just feel the same goes for Our rare corvettes wither it be a BB Or LT-1 as long as our car's are not misrepresented by someone faking an original saying it is a numbers matching when it is not . That is where I have a problem with people saying without the original motor it was born with it is just another plain jane low budget corvette. When we all know there are way's to pretty much document an original BB or LT-1,ZR-1, ZL-1, or even an L-88 even if it has lost its engine at some point.



Last edited by zebebad; Feb 12, 2017 at 01:36 PM.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Is this a real LT-1?

Old Feb 12, 2017 | 12:27 PM
  #18  
zebebad's Avatar
zebebad
Instructor
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 181
Likes: 19
From: West Lower Mich.
Default

I don't believe thread car on Ebay is a real LT-1 either at this point. I sent a question to the seller , asked him how many fuel ports are on the fuel pump , return line ect. The tach definitely wrong for sure, or did the 71 and 72 LT-1's come with a lower red line ? Somebody school me on this, Alan ..?

Last edited by zebebad; Feb 12, 2017 at 12:34 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 01:10 PM
  #19  
MelWff's Avatar
MelWff
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 18,755
Likes: 2,589
Default

all the Lt-1s, 70 to 72, had a 6,500 RPM redline
Reply
Old Feb 12, 2017 | 01:23 PM
  #20  
Wee's Avatar
Wee
Drifting
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,857
Likes: 332
From: Cartersville GA
Default

The 72 LT1 w/ac had a 5600 redline...

Brian
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:27 PM.

story-0
5 Best & 5 Most Overrated Corvette Track Packages of All Time!

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 most overrated Corvette track packages ever.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:46:45


VIEW MORE
story-1
Every 2027 Corvette Engine Explained

Slideshow: Every 2027 Corvette engine explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 12:16:31


VIEW MORE
story-2
Designer Imagines A Corvette That Looks More Like a Corvette Than the Corvette

Slideshow: A Jaguar designer's personal project imagines what a modern front-engined Corvette might look like if Chevrolet revisited the golden age of the Stingray.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-08 19:53:43


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE