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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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Swapped engines, removed all A/C components, now have aluminum heads, intake & so on. Front end sits about 2 inches to high. Are new spring the way to go? I so what kind?
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 12:26 PM
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Swapped engines, removed all A/C components, now have aluminum heads, intake & so on. Front end sits about 2 inches to high. Are new spring the way to go? I so what kind?
Thanks for any help you can lend
As far commonly available, over-the-counter stock diameter springs go you should look at the 550's.

I did the same and stock springs were 1.5" taller, 460's were 2" taller than my original stock height and 550's were about .5" shorter than my original stock height (less free length than 460). YMMV.

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I did the same mods. I just removed the stock springs and cut one coil off each spring. It lowered the front about 2".
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:01 PM
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I did the same mods. I just removed the stock springs and cut one coil off each spring. It lowered the front about 2".
Was hoping to find a progressive spring of some sort but maybe I'll just go the easy way and cut one coil off.
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by resdoggie
I did the same mods. I just removed the stock springs and cut one coil off each spring. It lowered the front about 2".
Same here.....cut a coil off of a 427/400 and it dropped it about 1 1/2.......
If you do it right this is a cheap, easy and safe mod. It even increases the spring rate a bit.

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Same here.....cut a coil off of a 427/400 and it dropped it about 1 1/2.......
If you do it right this is a cheap, easy and safe mod. It even increases the spring rate a bit.

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Started on spring removal, but try as I may I cannot get the ball joint loose from the control arm. Beat on that pickle fork for 30 minutes. and nothing moved. Really destroyed the ball joint boot though. Got any ideas?
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Started on spring removal, but try as I may I cannot get the ball joint loose from the control arm. Beat on that pickle fork for 30 minutes. and nothing moved. Really destroyed the ball joint boot though. Got any ideas?
Get a pickle fork for an air chisel....make sure it is narrow enough....there are two common widths.
Too wide will not give you the wedge you need.

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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 12:27 AM
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I dont mess with the forks i use this kind,


When i did my 66 it popped off with such a bang my neighbor thought i shot something....
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I dont mess with the forks i use this kind,


When i did my 66 it popped off with such a bang my neighbor thought i shot something....


It works very well.....and yes, it's a BIG bang when it pops loose
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Started on spring removal, but try as I may I cannot get the ball joint loose from the control arm. Beat on that pickle fork for 30 minutes. and nothing moved. Really destroyed the ball joint boot though. Got any ideas?

I take my spring out by taking the inside bolts off the control arm. The ones that hold it to the chassis. It is easier and you won't have to bang the hell out of the ball joint and rip the boot. Put a spring compressor on the spring (run it up thru the shock hole, look it up) and then remove the bolts and swing the control arm out of the way. I can do one side in about 20 minutes.
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I take my spring out by taking the inside bolts off the control arm. The ones that hold it to the chassis. It is easier and you won't have to bang the hell out of the ball joint and rip the boot. Put a spring compressor on the spring (run it up thru the shock hole, look it up) and then remove the bolts and swing the control arm out of the way. I can do one side in about 20 minutes.
Like your idea about removing inside bolts. I now have to remove my control arm cause I have to replace the ball joint. Now another problem, cannot get the big bolt loose on the control arm. tried impact wrench, flex bar with 30 inch extension, still nothing. Is it threaded into the control arm? Must be. Forgot to say, yes the ball joint is loose.
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Originally Posted by jroyse
Like your idea about removing inside bolts. I now have to remove my control arm cause I have to replace the ball joint. Now another problem, cannot get the big bolt loose on the control arm. tried impact wrench, flex bar with 30 inch extension, still nothing. Is it threaded into the control arm? Must be. Forgot to say, yes the ball joint is loose.

No that bolt goes thru the frame, no threads. It may be rusted in place. Hit it with some penetrating oil.
I learned that way when I went to school for GM.

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Are you talking about removing the lower A frame when you say control arm?
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Are you talking about removing the lower A frame when you say control arm?
Yes. I now have everything off and spring out but lower A frame will not come loose. The rear most bolt appears to be holding the thing in place. So far no amount of prying, pounding, penetrating oil or anything is working. I'm ready to replace the ball joint, cut the spring and put it back together without new bushings. I'm I missing something? Didn't expect this to be so difficult.
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any pics off whats going on?
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any pics off whats going on?
Here's a couple pictures showing the stuck a arm and bolt.
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I just did mine and that bolt was a very tight fit.
I had to support the lower a arm to prevent any shear stress or bending momentum on the bolt. Also I put back in place the 2 smaller bolts to maintain the alignment.

With that in place, I used a pin chaser to push the bolt out. Once aligned and the weight supported, it came out relatively easily. Or at least as easy as it could be on a 40 yo car with some rust...
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Put the nut on the end of the threads and start tapping it up with a bfh? Mine came out easy with wrenches. GL.
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Put the nut back on the bolt just so the bolt and nut are the same on the bottom and hit it a few times with a hammer should loosen it up,if that doesn't work a little heat with a propane torch on the a arm around were the bolt is will help.

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Put the nut back on the bolt just so the bolt and nut are the same on the bottom and hit it a few times with a hammer should loosen it up,if that doesn't work a little heat with a propane torch on the a arm around were the bolt is will help.

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Well I've tried all the above suggestions to an avail. Even used my air chisel on the bottom of the bolt, nothing will move. Managed to get my impact wrench on the top of the bolt but it still didn't budge. I hate to try a torch with the fuel pump sitting right above. Sooo I'm done. Just going to replace the ball joint and put it back together without replacing the A frame bushings. Thanks for all your help. I know you tried.
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