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Old Apr 25, 2017 | 01:07 PM
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Fellas,

I wanted to take this discussion out of the parts section and to where it belongs.

My August 69 build L-46 (No AC) has it's original radiator, which is copper (cap on the radiator, no external overflow). I am pretty sure that this was a production run change at some point. Weren't earlier 69 L46 cars (just talking No AC, L-46 to keep this even) produced with the aluminum radiator?

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Hello John,
I don't know. I think your radiator was replaced. They should all have the expansion tank with no cap on the radiator itself. Do you have the MJ9 tag on the passenger side? This radiator ran through 1970 so there was no change during the 69 model year. The radiator should be the same part number as the big block radiator.

Are you the original owner of this car?

Can you take a good clear picture of the top of the radiator. Does the radiator have tags on the grill side? If so its almost certainly a service replacement.

Even if the early 350hp cars had aluminum early in the run they would have had expansion tanks. At least that's all I ever seen with original cars and what is generally accepted as correct.

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From Alan in a post a couple weeks ago.

"Only 4-speed, non a/c cars had that tank along with an aluminum radiator.
The copper radior used with cars that had a base motor and automatic transmission used no tank."
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Hello John,
I don't know. I think your radiator was replaced. They should all have the expansion tank with no cap on the radiator itself. Do you have the MJ9 tag on the passenger side? This radiator ran through 1970 so there was no change during the 69 model year. The radiator should be the same part number as the big block radiator.

Are you the original owner of this car?

Can you take a good clear picture of the top of the radiator. Does the radiator have tags on the grill side? If so its almost certainly a service replacement.
Hi Ed,
Naa, I was 1 in Aug of 69 , but I bought it from the original owner. Still has the original RC15 cap on it and the car is extremely original, down to the smog. It has never been restored, but needs it. I truthfully do not think the original owner replaced anything except for a few clamps and hoses. The Bizzocco (sp?) book talks about the production change to copper in later 69 for the L46, but I do not have it handy. I also have the hood blanket. I am 99% sure it is original. Check out the thread in the PARTS section on the 68 radiator for sale. Near the end is where the discussion starts.

I will try to get a better look at it with some pictures.

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Originally Posted by Dynra Rockets
From Alan in a post a couple weeks ago.

"Only 4-speed, non a/c cars had that tank along with an aluminum radiator.
The copper radior used with cars that had a base motor and automatic transmission used no tank."

I think that may have been different in some cases for the 69 L46. I need to get me book this evening.
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Hi,
My post illustrated what happens when I stray from sb, 4-speed, 71 cars….I get very STUPID, very quickly!!!!
The 68-69 TIM&JG indicates that 69 350/350, 4-speed, non a/c cars, have been seen with either aluminum or copper radiators.
I want to believe I was referring to just 68 cars, but probably not.
I think!
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi,
My post illustrated what happens when I stray from sb, 4-speed, 71 cars….I get very STUPID, very quickly!!!!
The 68-69 TIM&JG indicates that 69 350/350, 4-speed, non a/c cars, have been seen with either aluminum or copper radiators.
I think!
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70 l-46 used copper carry-over from late 69.
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi,
My post illustrated what happens when I stray from sb, 4-speed, 71 cars….I get very STUPID, very quickly!!!!
The 68-69 TIM&JG indicates that 69 350/350, 4-speed, non a/c cars, have been seen with either aluminum or copper radiators.
I think!
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You? Never Forum Sensei! I knew I read there was a change somewhere in 69 I just forget when. Wish I had my book handy. If I recall, some even had copper with blanket and some without!

Pretty sure Vettebuyer's Black Beauty 69 L46 has an aluminum radiator.

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My November 69 production L46, which I purchased in February of 73, came with the copper radiator with filler neck and no separate expansion tank.
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Well, just to add to the list - my September 68 build 1969, L46 4 speed non AC has an aluminum radiator and expansion tank.

Sometime it seems that they grabbed whatever was handy at the time and DONE!! Next!!!

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Originally Posted by avalonjohn
Pretty sure Vettebuyer's Black Beauty 69 L46 has an aluminum radiator.
I agree AJ! I have some pictures of his beautiful engine bay and it has the aluminum expansion tank so I could assume he has the aluminum radiator too!

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Originally Posted by Go Vette Go
Well, just to add to the list - my September 68 build L46 4 speed non AC has an aluminum radiator and expansion tank.

Sometime it seems that they grabbed whatever was handy at the time and DONE!! Next!!!

Same for my November build 68 L46
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My Sept 68 L46, like go better go has aluminum and expansion tank.
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My Jan 69 L46 has a copper radiator
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My Feb 69 L46 man/non A/C has a copper radiator.
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Interesting.

So, my 69 auto, 350/300 has a "regular" radiator (cap on the radiator) and no expansion tank. I thought maybe the radiator had been replaced at some point, which would explain the absence of the expansion tank, but now I'm assuming it probably never had one?

Why didn't Chevy put a coolant recovery tank on there in 69? Too early in the evolution of the cooling system?
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Originally Posted by RJ1AZ
Interesting.

So, my 69 auto, 350/300 has a "regular" radiator (cap on the radiator) and no expansion tank. I thought maybe the radiator had been replaced at some point, which would explain the absence of the expansion tank, but now I'm assuming it probably never had one?

Why didn't Chevy put a coolant recovery tank on there in 69? Too early in the evolution of the cooling system?
Does your car have AC?
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Does your car have AC?
Nope.
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Isn't the core support different for the aluminum to the copper/brass radiator? Bigger opening, different mounting, doesn't the aluminum use pegs for mounting? T
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Isn't the core support different for the aluminum to the copper/brass radiator? Bigger opening, different mounting, doesn't the aluminum use pegs for mounting? T

yes, yes, yes and yes.
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