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Old Jun 27, 2017 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jhudec
I was actually looking at doing the same thing during my restoration. I have sourced 1 (black) single shoulder belt in very nice condition, but need a second. I know 69' are different as they have the pin as part of the shoulder belt receptacle. Anyone know where to source a 2nd 69' black shoulder belt? I have been looking at lall the big internet sites without luck.
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As I'm sure you've found, nobody seems to make an accurate reproduction of the 69 style belts with the pin on the shoulder receptacle. Not that I was able to find, anyway. I really wanted to stick with my original lap belts, so that meant I'd have to find a used set of shoulder belts. I bought a full set of tan ones on ebay for a decent price, but I'll still have to pay to have them converted to bright blue.


You could post a "Want To Buy" thread in the parts section. Other than that, there's a full set of black belts on ebay right now, but I'd choke on the price. You might also google "corvette recyclers" or something similar and start working the phones.

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I'll wrap up this thread with my final update.

I sent the original set of tan shoulder belts I bought off ebay to Ssnake Oyl for restoration and color change to bright blue.

Buckles were rechromed, retractor bases were replated, covers were dyed, and new webbing was installed. I think they came out very nice.



Installation was straightforward, since the shoulder belt mounting point was there from the factory. The only pain point was cutting holes in the seat cover to install the belt guide. The mounting holes in the seat back were present from the factory. It was just a matter of finding them by feel, using an awl to make the initial hole, then trimming the hole bigger to let the guide sit flush and screwing it in place.






Passenger side is finished. Still working on the driver's side.

This was definitely not the cheapest way to add shoulder belts, but since I really wanted it to be factory correct, I'm very pleased with the way it turned out.
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 11:34 AM
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Looking very very nice !!!!
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Old Aug 5, 2018 | 11:43 AM
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that does look awwesome
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Nice job Rick, looks great!

No one ever accused Snake Oyl of being cheap but they do fantastic work.

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Old Jan 7, 2019 | 10:32 PM
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I gotta ask how much did the restoration at Snake Oyl cost roughly?
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Old Jan 9, 2019 | 07:52 AM
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Rick, sorry I never got back to you with the pics. I am just seeing this. Looks like
you figured it out. They look great. Mine are black and they came from Snake Oyl too.
and they were pricey. I still haven’t put those guides on the top of the seat ,I can’t bring
myself to make the holes in the seat. Maybe someday. Does yours get in the way when
you open the battery compartment mine does,you have to turn it up out of the way.
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Originally Posted by rcread
I used rear belts from a 4th gen F body.
That's what I used. Works like a champ.
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I will dig out the receipt for you if you want.youwont like it though.
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Don’t worry about digging out the reciept, I’m sure it was as much as the belts cost you! All the repo shoulder belts I found say coupe only, will not fit convertible? Does anyone know why? Do the shoulder belts mounted get in the way of the soft top frame?
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Old Feb 6, 2019 | 07:51 PM
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I added some from seat belts plus in my 69 roadster. They work fine. No interference. Not sure why they say coupe only. These actually said convertible and coupe.
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ1AZ
I'll wrap up this thread with my final update.

I sent the original set of tan shoulder belts I bought off ebay to Ssnake Oyl for restoration and color change to bright blue.

Buckles were rechromed, retractor bases were replated, covers were dyed, and new webbing was installed. I think they came out very nice.



Installation was straightforward, since the shoulder belt mounting point was there from the factory. The only pain point was cutting holes in the seat cover to install the belt guide. The mounting holes in the seat back were present from the factory. It was just a matter of finding them by feel, using an awl to make the initial hole, then trimming the hole bigger to let the guide sit flush and screwing it in place.






Passenger side is finished. Still working on the driver's side.

This was definitely not the cheapest way to add shoulder belts, but since I really wanted it to be factory correct, I'm very pleased with the way it turned out.
Rick
so, were the brackets between the top of each seat and the headrests already there or did you have to add them? My seats do not have them currently...
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Old Feb 7, 2019 | 09:34 PM
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My 69 convertible didn't have the shoulder belt brackets either. I had to add them when I added the shoulder belt. $24.99 ea from Corvette America.

Installation was fairly easy, but I did have to chase the threads on the hole where the shoulder retractor goes. They'd gotten kinda rusty and corroded.
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Are you referring to the holes behind the seats on the side of the walls (I guess that would be above the wheels)? Don't suppose you have a picture?

Also, how did the brackets attach to the top of the seat? Are there threads or is it a matter of drilling into the metal of the seat frame? Sorry if these are stupid questions...I’m just starting out

Thanks!!

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You can feel two dimples in the frame ,just under the head restraint. An awl will get you started.
then a little X over the hole when you find it. They aren’t screws ,they are small bolts. You can
order the correct ones . I got mine a Zips. Not fun poking holes in the seats . And the head rests
wont go down all the way after they are on there. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by JBrooke825
You can feel two dimples in the frame ,just under the head restraint. An awl will get you started.
then a little X over the hole when you find it. They aren’t screws ,they are small bolts. You can
order the correct ones . I got mine a Zips. Not fun poking holes in the seats . And the head rests
wont go down all the way after they are on there. Good luck.


I had just recovered the seats so I measured the distance to the first hole. That made it less scary. You can feel it through the cover. Punch the first hole. Install the first screw in bracket and then the second hole is already lined up for you.
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Originally Posted by Hayes69


I had just recovered the seats so I measured the distance to the first hole. That made it less scary. You can feel it through the cover. Punch the first hole. Install the first screw in bracket and then the second hole is already lined up for you.
That makes sense...since we are both in DFW area, what do you charge per hour of consulting? LOL!
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Originally Posted by JBrooke825
You can feel two dimples in the frame ,just under the head restraint. An awl will get you started.
then a little X over the hole when you find it. They aren’t screws ,they are small bolts. You can
order the correct ones . I got mine a Zips. Not fun poking holes in the seats . And the head rests
wont go down all the way after they are on there. Good luck.
Anyone know how bad of a ding that would be with NCRS judges? I know it was an available option, so I am hoping NONE!!!

Also, has anyone been through the flighting process with NCRS? I have the manual and am working my way though on some items, but as far as the process and judging itself, do you have any input?
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They are very helpful. At the local chapter level you will see all levels of cars
I had my 67 judged 5 times ,top flight 4 of them . But every year they get a little harder on you.
after you have the judging done you will have a detailed list to follow as you continue on,if you choose to.
Its a good time you will learn a lot. A chapter they don’t go under the car.
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