What do you think about this '68 that I just "found"???
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What do you think about this '68 that I just "found"???
http://www.dmotorsinc.com/1968_Chevr...OH_7594071.veh
My initial phone call with Dominic was cordial. Looks to be a smallish used car dealer near Cleveland. He said he never let the car sit out to be "bait" for people driving by. In fact, he had to get out of storage to take the initial set of pictures.
From the pictures taken at his place I saw that he had a couple of lifts. I asked if he would put the car on a lift and take pictures. He just got back to me today. He took some decent pictures and added them with the initial images I saw over the weekend.
He told me that while the odometer is at 47,000 miles, the title says, "mileage unknown". He texted me a picture of the title. He doesn’t know the story regarding why the title statement.
Thoughts?
<Thanks as always for the help!>
My initial phone call with Dominic was cordial. Looks to be a smallish used car dealer near Cleveland. He said he never let the car sit out to be "bait" for people driving by. In fact, he had to get out of storage to take the initial set of pictures.
From the pictures taken at his place I saw that he had a couple of lifts. I asked if he would put the car on a lift and take pictures. He just got back to me today. He took some decent pictures and added them with the initial images I saw over the weekend.
He told me that while the odometer is at 47,000 miles, the title says, "mileage unknown". He texted me a picture of the title. He doesn’t know the story regarding why the title statement.
Thoughts?
<Thanks as always for the help!>
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I see a base engine car that someone has spray painted the underneath of the car to "restore" it. Lots of red paint or primer overspray on the inner wheels and front suspension. Steel fuel lines that have been replaced with rubber and ...........
FYI - A used car dealer is a USED car dealer, $$$ is their goal.
FYI - A used car dealer is a USED car dealer, $$$ is their goal.
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Hi ICD,
The milage issue is sort of a moot point now… you're buying the car as it is, so the mileage doesn't really matter. It doesn't look like it has 'low' miles, but doesn't look like it has a 'zillion' miles either.
The price seems o.k. for a nom car at a dealer that appears to be solid in the photos.
Any information about the engine, transmission, rear end in the car now?
Any mention of the condition of the windshield frame and hinge pillars?
Worth checking out further.
Regards,
Alan
The milage issue is sort of a moot point now… you're buying the car as it is, so the mileage doesn't really matter. It doesn't look like it has 'low' miles, but doesn't look like it has a 'zillion' miles either.
The price seems o.k. for a nom car at a dealer that appears to be solid in the photos.
Any information about the engine, transmission, rear end in the car now?
Any mention of the condition of the windshield frame and hinge pillars?
Worth checking out further.
Regards,
Alan
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It looks clean to me. At least what the pictures show. I am not sure about the price. But it seems to be within range. Looks like one to go check out, maybe you can talk him down also a bit?
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Aftermarket hood, wrong rocker panels, NOM, rattle can resto... for $24k for a coupe?
I think not.
Many states print "unknown" in the mileage area on titles for cars over a certain age, because the odometer is usually wrong anyway.
I'm guessing the black paint and grey leather interior doesn't match the trim tag which will affect value. Find this out. Can't see frame very well, but what you can see of end caps don't look bad, although there's fresh Rustoleum spritzed in there.
Could possibly be a nice looking fun driver, but you need more details and that price needs to start with a "1" without more evidence of value.
I think not.
Many states print "unknown" in the mileage area on titles for cars over a certain age, because the odometer is usually wrong anyway.
I'm guessing the black paint and grey leather interior doesn't match the trim tag which will affect value. Find this out. Can't see frame very well, but what you can see of end caps don't look bad, although there's fresh Rustoleum spritzed in there.
Could possibly be a nice looking fun driver, but you need more details and that price needs to start with a "1" without more evidence of value.
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The spray bomb underneath is concerning, what other corners have been cut? I'd also be surprised if it's an original Black car. If you really like the looks then have someone who knows C3s inspect it, especially for rust. If mechanically sound, good paint, low rust and you're not worried about originality, then low 20s seems reasonable.
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some examples
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/6109989449.html
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ctd/6160685602.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6148439498.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/6147193882.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6134885088.html
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24 to me is purists pricing on a base coupe meaning it should be all stock and near perfection,
Or if restro moddded really built nicely,
I see cars that appear basically like this one from private sellers go for 10 to 15,
A buddy just bought one very much like this one for 11.5 and it had a 5 speed and crate big block.
I almost went on a little trip to sell one for 10
Or if restro moddded really built nicely,
I see cars that appear basically like this one from private sellers go for 10 to 15,
A buddy just bought one very much like this one for 11.5 and it had a 5 speed and crate big block.
I almost went on a little trip to sell one for 10
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In my eyes this car is pretty clean, not too many c3s are rust free unless pampered as in well cared for and or restored, there was bare metal from the factory, bare metal rusts.
I cant recall the state the 11.5 bb was in, but it was a clean good running car,
The 454 was a replacement, the 5 speed was a mod the owner had done, it was a 69 coupe and had an l88 hood and poorly fitting wheels as in wrong offset,
As i recall paint and interior was high driver condition,
It was a car that likely would have been trashed if posted here, they are cars for drivers not investors,
Just like in 09 i paid about 6200 to have a 69 convertible delivered to my door, great paint and interior, bad engine, now a 454 with about 13k invested at this point,
How about 15k for a very nice 69 restro mod, its flared and got a tilt front clip, wins shows condition, but no where near a stock purist car, a fun play with it driving car.
They are out there.
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Number 1, although mega miles could be a good car for my purposes. Meaning a black paint job without getting into big money.
Number 2: no convertibles need apply. Just a personal preference, but again, it shows that there nice cars out there.
Number 3 has been on my radar. It is worth looking in to. I do wonder why it's been up for sale for so long though. Plus, who doesn't bother to take a bunch of decent pictures and give details???? I can't get that.
Number 4 - what a great looking car! It just doesn't leave me budget room to get it to black.
Number 5 - again, a nice car. I'll never get over the dang luggage racks and I know they can come off when a car is painted but there is a chance that the holes from the rack could show up some day. Plus the price + paint isn't great.
KingRat, you have given me some things to contemplate and I thank you.
Number 2: no convertibles need apply. Just a personal preference, but again, it shows that there nice cars out there.
Number 3 has been on my radar. It is worth looking in to. I do wonder why it's been up for sale for so long though. Plus, who doesn't bother to take a bunch of decent pictures and give details???? I can't get that.
Number 4 - what a great looking car! It just doesn't leave me budget room to get it to black.
Number 5 - again, a nice car. I'll never get over the dang luggage racks and I know they can come off when a car is painted but there is a chance that the holes from the rack could show up some day. Plus the price + paint isn't great.
KingRat, you have given me some things to contemplate and I thank you.
Here are some cars in that general price range, more or less, for comparison:
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/6109989449.html
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ctd/6160685602.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6148439498.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/6147193882.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6134885088.html
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/6109989449.html
https://milwaukee.craigslist.org/ctd/6160685602.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6148439498.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/6147193882.html
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/6134885088.html
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I'm sorry, I can't be as nice as everyone else Indy. This is entry level at a premium price.
Save time and blow this one off the list! An Ohio used car dealer and doesn't know what "mileage unknown" means from their own DOT?
I'm very familiar with the only ways in which the title can say that in OH.
1. A discrepancy is found when title transfer is requested and odometer statement does not reflect last odometer reporting. A non investigation requires title statements. Some common mistakes such as a roll over on 5 or 6 digit odometers whereby current reading has not been added to gross mileage can trigger title statement.
2. When tag agents send in form DOT 49/A which states that seller does not know or can not guarantee mileage is true due to mechanical failure of odometer, missing odometer, restoration with a replaced odometer or previous transfer of tille indicated mileage unknown.
3. Out of state or non US origin sold with a bill of sale.
Used car dealers always take prices into unreal territory - it's their game.
Not worth more than $19,000 at most, among other stuff, no ac and I'll bet there are more issues yet to be known.
Rich
Save time and blow this one off the list! An Ohio used car dealer and doesn't know what "mileage unknown" means from their own DOT?
I'm very familiar with the only ways in which the title can say that in OH.
1. A discrepancy is found when title transfer is requested and odometer statement does not reflect last odometer reporting. A non investigation requires title statements. Some common mistakes such as a roll over on 5 or 6 digit odometers whereby current reading has not been added to gross mileage can trigger title statement.
2. When tag agents send in form DOT 49/A which states that seller does not know or can not guarantee mileage is true due to mechanical failure of odometer, missing odometer, restoration with a replaced odometer or previous transfer of tille indicated mileage unknown.
3. Out of state or non US origin sold with a bill of sale.
Used car dealers always take prices into unreal territory - it's their game.
Not worth more than $19,000 at most, among other stuff, no ac and I'll bet there are more issues yet to be known.
Rich
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1969 Black Corvette, resto-mod - $29500 (Monterey)
https://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/6152053002.html
Looks like a nice car.
https://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/6152053002.html
Looks like a nice car.
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What a deceptive ad! How can anybody trust a seller who does this BS!
At the end of the day this is just a very nice, expensive and extensively modified '75 Corvette presented in such a way to grab the attention of anybody looking for a '69 (or a chrome bumper C3).
No denying the seller has good money invested, but not a good a good deal unless you want a 75 done according to some other person's taste.
$29K - No Way!
1969 Black Corvette, resto-mod - $29500 (Monterey)
https://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/6152053002.html
Looks like a nice car.
https://monterey.craigslist.org/cto/6152053002.html
Looks like a nice car.
No denying the seller has good money invested, but not a good a good deal unless you want a 75 done according to some other person's taste.
$29K - No Way!
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What a deceptive ad! How can anybody trust a seller who does this BS!
At the end of the day this is just a very nice, expensive and extensively modified '75 Corvette presented in such a way to grab the attention of anybody looking for a '69 (or a chrome bumper C3).
No denying the seller has good money invested, but not a good a good deal unless you want a 75 done according to some other person's taste.
$29K - No Way!
At the end of the day this is just a very nice, expensive and extensively modified '75 Corvette presented in such a way to grab the attention of anybody looking for a '69 (or a chrome bumper C3).
No denying the seller has good money invested, but not a good a good deal unless you want a 75 done according to some other person's taste.
$29K - No Way!
The cat says its a 75 made to look like a 69, he doesnt try to say its anything other than what it is,
What i see the seller doing is trying to tap the people who are digging that road race flared chrome bumper look,
Thats his market,
A lot of people would like the color, the mods are popular ones, its a flowing pleasing build.
Several cats here have made cars very much like this one can it be built for 29k?
How much will he get?
I could see an impulse buyer who has been wanting a restro mod jump all over this thing, cheaper than most ac cobras and a zillion times better looking.
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Im missing what you are calling bs on,
The cat says its a 75 made to look like a 69, he doesnt try to say its anything other than what it is,
What i see the seller doing is trying to tap the people who are digging that road race flared chrome bumper look,
Thats his market,
A lot of people would like the color, the mods are popular ones, its a flowing pleasing build.
Several cats here have made cars very much like this one can it be built for 29k?
How much will he get?
I could see an impulse buyer who has been wanting a restro mod jump all over this thing, cheaper than most ac cobras and a zillion times better looking.
The cat says its a 75 made to look like a 69, he doesnt try to say its anything other than what it is,
What i see the seller doing is trying to tap the people who are digging that road race flared chrome bumper look,
Thats his market,
A lot of people would like the color, the mods are popular ones, its a flowing pleasing build.
Several cats here have made cars very much like this one can it be built for 29k?
How much will he get?
I could see an impulse buyer who has been wanting a restro mod jump all over this thing, cheaper than most ac cobras and a zillion times better looking.
You must read halfway through a long ad to find out It is a 1975, that is deception!
I would have greater respect if the seller said
"A 1975 restomoded to look like a 1969"
I did not imply anything negative about the seller having done anything unpopular or not liked. I believe after reading a fair amount of Indy's posts
He is looking for something in his budget and Black as top on his list. Many times his interests has been originality, but if it's not black the price has to be reasonable enough to respray in Black. We can see in the post prior to mine Indy didn't like the $25 and $29K prices in the list of 5 Chicago CL ads.
With 40 years of buying and selling more than a 1000 cars and trucks you get a good sense of what to expect with a seller's choice in wording their ads. Most times even when I don't particularly like the ad and feel a snow-job, I still give it the benefit of doubt and check it out anyway.