Opinions Please
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Drifting
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From: LA-LOWER ALABAMA
Opinions Please
Pulled the kick panels off a few months ago on my 1970 LS5. Does not look too bad as I can see. What is you opinion? Trying to decide on selling the car and going for a C2.
Had it POR'd but wanted pics beforehand for any potential buyers to review.
Had it POR'd but wanted pics beforehand for any potential buyers to review.
Melting Slicks
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From: perth western australia
not good , although it looks "not to bad" from that side , that swollen tab on the right front is a give away to it being worse than you hoped . I can show some pics of what started as very similar looking until the pillar to sill area was exposed (glass panels removed ) as being completely rotted out, on the sill panel outside the pillar .
you need to get a good torch , get down and look up from under in the gap above the frame and see what you can see AND cross all your fingers, toes and get the misses to do the same
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Drifting
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Birdcage was fine. Had a new windshield installed so we were able to get up close and personal with it. We were expecting to have to replace some metal but lucked out.
Thanks for the opinions. Always good to have a second set of eyes on things.
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Drifting
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From: LA-LOWER ALABAMA
not good , although it looks "not to bad" from that side , that swollen tab on the right front is a give away to it being worse than you hoped . I can show some pics of what started as very similar looking until the pillar to sill area was exposed (glass panels removed ) as being completely rotted out, on the sill panel outside the pillar .
you need to get a good torch , get down and look up from under in the gap above the frame and see what you can see AND cross all your fingers, toes and get the misses to do the same
Team Owner
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Hi,
The way the stain 'tracks' in the hinge pillar it appears the water is running down from above and laying around the body mount bolt and washer.
As a perspective buyer I'd still want to know where it was getting into the hinge pillar.
Also as a buyer the POR would make me very cautious…. I'd wonder what you were covering up. POR stands for Paint Over Rust.
Regards,
Alan
The way the stain 'tracks' in the hinge pillar it appears the water is running down from above and laying around the body mount bolt and washer.
As a perspective buyer I'd still want to know where it was getting into the hinge pillar.
Also as a buyer the POR would make me very cautious…. I'd wonder what you were covering up. POR stands for Paint Over Rust.
Regards,
Alan
Last edited by Alan 71; Aug 8, 2017 at 07:26 AM.
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Drifting
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From: LA-LOWER ALABAMA
Thanks
Hi,
The way the stain 'tracks' in the hinge pillar it appears the water is running down from above and laying around the body mount bolt and washer.
As a perspective buyer I'd still want to know where it was getting into the hinge pillar.
Also as a buyer the POR would make me very cautious…. I'd wonder what you were covering up. POR stands for Paint Over Rust.
Regards,
Alan
The way the stain 'tracks' in the hinge pillar it appears the water is running down from above and laying around the body mount bolt and washer.
As a perspective buyer I'd still want to know where it was getting into the hinge pillar.
Also as a buyer the POR would make me very cautious…. I'd wonder what you were covering up. POR stands for Paint Over Rust.
Regards,
Alan
Thanks for tips. That's why I took pictures at least to have a before hand record this is what it looked like if someone was interested.
I doubt this car will ever be a candidate for a frame off as long as I own it.
Hardly driven, probably will hardly ever see water for a bath and hopefully never in a rain shower.
Only been driven about 6 times since Nov 2016. Drive last week was a good drive of about 100 miles.
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Wash the car with those covers off. Either put a video camera in while you wash, or get someone to wash and spray water on the outside while you are inside looking.
Then you can see how much leaks. It could be if you never drive in rain and live in a dry climate, it will be fine until you die from old age. If not, it will give you an idea of how crucial it is to find the leak and repair that by the volume of water that comes in.
I agree with Alan, POR is for covering stuff up or using on lawn furniture. And rust covered is still rust, so it keeps eating away at the steel until it is all rust. Two ways to handle it is to chemically attack it (bottles of rust eliminator from body shop, phosphoric acid basically) or to physically remove it (sand or grind it out).
Most just sand, wire brush, or grind as much as they can, use the chemicals for a quick wipe down, and then primer and paint to prevent moisture promoting more rust.
Then you can see how much leaks. It could be if you never drive in rain and live in a dry climate, it will be fine until you die from old age. If not, it will give you an idea of how crucial it is to find the leak and repair that by the volume of water that comes in.
I agree with Alan, POR is for covering stuff up or using on lawn furniture. And rust covered is still rust, so it keeps eating away at the steel until it is all rust. Two ways to handle it is to chemically attack it (bottles of rust eliminator from body shop, phosphoric acid basically) or to physically remove it (sand or grind it out).
Most just sand, wire brush, or grind as much as they can, use the chemicals for a quick wipe down, and then primer and paint to prevent moisture promoting more rust.
Last edited by Procrastination Racing; Aug 29, 2017 at 10:23 PM.