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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 06:01 PM
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1969 corvette L46 coupe

My rear end is tilted approximately 1 inch.

Front end is level.

Frame is level.

My rear springs are definitely old.. ( they are the original springs.. I bought the car new)

The springs appear symetrical .. in other words the lowest leaf on each side is the same distance from the ground.

I'm at a loss as far as what is causing this tilt.

I'm attaching a photo of the rear spring ..

Body mounts have never been changed.

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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 06:15 PM
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Hi b,
What is the dimension from the ground to the high point of the rear wheel arch.
Knowing that dimension will tell you if in deed one side is low and the other typical… or is one side high?

With the original F70-15 tires which were 27" tall the wheel arch dimension was just a hair below 28"

What are your dimensions.
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The AIM indicates there could be a 1/4" +- on each side… so a car COULD have left St.Louis being off by 1/2".

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Old Oct 27, 2017 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi b,
What is the dimension from the ground to the high point of the rear wheel arch.
Knowing that dimension will tell you if in deed one side is low and the other typical… or is one side high?

With the original F70-15 tires which were 27" tall the wheel arch dimension was just a hair below 28"

What are your dimensions.
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The AIM indicates there could be a 1/4" +- on each side… so a car COULD have left St.Louis being off by 1/2".

My dimensions are 29 inches driver's side and 30 inches passenger side.

I have the original type F70-15 redlines on the car

Spare tire and carrier are not installed.

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Body mounts are aluminum, maybe the rubber bushings are worn on the leaf spring bolt, driver's side? I would replace both bolts and bushings, reset height to 28 on both sides.

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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 08:35 AM
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Hi B,
The spring's appearance is about what I'd expect with the car's weight on the suspension…. the spring is parallel to the ground (almost all the arch is gone).
Taking into consideration the appearance of the spring I'm SURPRISED to read the numbers you posted.
The car sounds quite high.

What if any work have you done on the rear suspension?
Has the car been driven?

How about a couple of photos from further back so the trailing arms can be seen too.
Perhaps one from the side too.
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 04:10 PM
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Similar problem on my 79 and I know one other Forum member posted with this problem and if I remember correctly a few others said they had it too.
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Old Oct 28, 2017 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi B,
The spring's appearance is about what I'd expect with the car's weight on the suspension…. the spring is parallel to the ground (almost all the arch is gone).
Taking into consideration the appearance of the spring I'm SURPRISED to read the numbers you posted.
The car sounds quite high.

I remeasured.. dimensions are as previously noted.. 29 and 30 inches

What if any work have you done on the rear suspension?
Has the car been driven?

How about a couple of photos from further back so the trailing arms can be seen too.
Perhaps one from the side too.
Regards,
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The trailing arms were rebuilt .. new bushings all around

Car has not been driven much at all

Here's a couple of photos.

Should my springs have more arch? They are 69 vintage but I thought they looked OK.

Can I actually adjust the cor's height by adjustment of the rear spring attachment nuts?





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Hi b,
The mufflers are hiding the ends of the spring.
The information from Eaton concerning the standard 9 leave spring that it is typically flat, or even 'slightly' curved up at the ends, when the spring has the original specifications, is installed properly, and the car's weight is what it typically was when the cars left St.Louis.
The half shafts should be very close to being parallel to the ground.
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I believe this to be an untouched spring on a very low milage car.
I'm unsure if it's a 9 leaf or 7 leaf spring.
You can see how flat it is with the car's weight on it.



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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi b,
The mufflers are hiding the ends of the spring.
The information from Eaton concerning the standard 9 leave spring that it is typically flat, or even 'slightly' curved up at the ends, when the spring has the original specifications, is installed properly, and the car's weight is what it typically was when the cars left St.Louis.
The half shafts should be very close to being parallel to the ground.
Regards,
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I believe this to be an untouched spring on a very low milage car.
I'm unsure if it's a 9 leaf or 7 leaf spring.
You can see how flat it is with the car's weight on it.


Here are a couple of photos of my spring ends... half shafts are definitely not parallel to the ground... although the photos don't show them.






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Hi b,
Well, what I see in the photos looks pretty much as I would expect.
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Sometimes the strut rod cam adjustment can have an effect on ride height. Have you looked at that?

Is this something new, something you've just noticed?
How far apart has the car been?
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi b,
Well, what I see in the photos looks pretty much as I would expect.
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Sometimes the strut rod cam adjustment can have an effect on ride height. Have you looked at that?

Is this something new, something you've just noticed?
How far apart has the car been?
Regards,
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Car has been apart.. however the tilt was noticed before it was apart.

The strut rod cam looks more like a wheel camber adjustment..I just had the car aligned so I'm not sure I want to mess with that.

Is there any other adjustments to body height?

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Hi b,
No, there's no body adjustment. It sit's directly on the frame body mounts.

Other than the fact that the car is somewhat apart I don't know what else could be causing the ride height to be what it is. I'm unsure that the weight of parts that are now off the car will be enough to bring it down that far when it's put back together.

The easy solution is longer spring to t-arm bolts.
But that's just a band-aid…. it's not dealing whith what's causing the difference you're seeing.
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Old Oct 30, 2017 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan 71
Hi b,
No, there's no body adjustment. It sit's directly on the frame body mounts.

Other than the fact that the car is somewhat apart I don't know what else could be causing the ride height to be what it is. I'm unsure that the weight of parts that are now off the car will be enough to bring it down that far when it's put back together.

The easy solution is longer spring to t-arm bolts.
But that's just a band-aid…. it's not dealing whith what's causing the difference you're seeing.
Regards,
Alan
Could a worn shock cause this issue? Doesn't the shock run from the wheel to the car's frame?
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Old Oct 31, 2017 | 05:55 PM
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shock doesn't carry weight. you say frame is level. measure from frame to ground on level ground several points both sides of frame. now measure from body to ground. several points, both sides. if frame measures the same both sides and body measures higher 1 side, body is on frame crooked. spring height isn't the issue. 1 or 2 body mounts are higher 1 side than the other. frame and body both the same amount off, it is a spring or suspension issue. a body mount could have collapsed on the low side. looks like the #4 left is the real culprit.

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