1972 350/200hp - What is it worth?
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Burning Brakes
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1972 350/200hp - What is it worth?
I am trying to decide if I should sell this engine complete and get a used block to build my 383 or if I should just use the one that I have.
It is a 58k original engine mated to a TH400 that is running.
What is this worth? Is there a market for a complete 350/200hp engine from a 72?
If I can cover the cost of the short block by selling the original engine than it makes sense.
Your advice is appreciated!
It is a 58k original engine mated to a TH400 that is running.
What is this worth? Is there a market for a complete 350/200hp engine from a 72?
If I can cover the cost of the short block by selling the original engine than it makes sense.
Your advice is appreciated!
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Drifting
If you buy a short block to build your stroker, you'll need a bunch of little things that will nickel and dime you to death, but things you already have on your complete motor. But why not just use your existing motor to build your 383. You can buy a stroker kit from a dozen places like PAW for a reasonable price and just have your block machined as needed. If I was going that route, I would build a 427 small block stump puller with a mild cam and not put a lot of money in the heads and top end. If you got the bucks, a set of aluminum heads (even the Chinese ones) will add some performance and save a lot of weight.
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Short of a few rare ones like lt1s a sb vette engine isnt really worth more than any other sb engine except that numbers matching stigma
keep your 350 build some insane stroker and still brag your 72 is numbers matching...
keep your 350 build some insane stroker and still brag your 72 is numbers matching...
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Greg (01-06-2018)
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Burning Brakes
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If you buy a short block to build your stroker, you'll need a bunch of little things that will nickel and dime you to death, but things you already have on your complete motor. But why not just use your existing motor to build your 383. You can buy a stroker kit from a dozen places like PAW for a reasonable price and just have your block machined as needed. If I was going that route, I would build a 427 small block stump puller with a mild cam and not put a lot of money in the heads and top end. If you got the bucks, a set of aluminum heads (even the Chinese ones) will add some performance and save a lot of weight.
Well, it is a base 350 coupe so it will never be worth restoring back to NCRS. If not going NCRS, there doesn't seem to be any reason that I can think of to keep it original. Plus I don't intend on ever selling the car =).
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I got 350 bucks for a running rebuilt 350, a rebuilt with spun rod, a cracked 350 for rot assy for spun motor, and a bare 010 block. And felt lucky to find a buyer.
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Why don’t you take that original block, wrap it in plastic and put it aside for the day you DO sell it (you will). You will be shocked how many people do care about numbers matching when you sell and it will be worth far more to you that day.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
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Why don’t you take that original block, wrap it in plastic and put it aside for the day you DO sell it (you will). You will be shocked how many people do care about numbers matching when you sell and it will be worth far more to you that day.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
BEST response right there pal. Save the original engine. Grease it up and wrap it tightly. It is worth pennies to anyone except the owner of your car (you or future owner).
Go buy a nasty big block and smoke tires all you want. Someday, that greased up wrapped up block will pay you back to the right buyer.
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I am trying to decide if I should sell this engine complete and get a used block to build my 383 or if I should just use the one that I have.
It is a 58k original engine mated to a TH400 that is running.
What is this worth? Is there a market for a complete 350/200hp engine from a 72?
If I can cover the cost of the short block by selling the original engine than it makes sense.
Your advice is appreciated!
It is a 58k original engine mated to a TH400 that is running.
What is this worth? Is there a market for a complete 350/200hp engine from a 72?
If I can cover the cost of the short block by selling the original engine than it makes sense.
Your advice is appreciated!
Let's be real, how many people want to store a motor just to have a bunch of factory matching junk. It is all junk to a point. If anyone was to restore it and use it, they would have to rebuild the motor and many parts would not be re-used. Many people don't have or want to take up space with this.
The stock 350 is a 2 bolt main and is a heavy thick block that is good for a 383 as long as you do not go too wild. Use ARP studs everywhere.
If you want to know exactly what it costs and all parts we used, follow our thread on our build. on the Green Monster in this forum. Or out YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0G...ZtIVaI-mUGsh9Q
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When I bought my 68 restomod last summer the PO owner rebuilt and bagged the original 350/350 motor and sat it in the corner of his garage. He was absolutely sure he was never going to sell the car, until I came along
He had a real nasty, BB attitude ,408CI built for the car and when I inquired about selling the car the bagged engine came with the selling price. Told him to keep the engine, I don't want it as this car is so custom the original engine means nothing to me.
I've seen the engine on Ebay and no bids. If the engine means nothing to me it means less to anyone else since I own the original car.
He had a real nasty, BB attitude ,408CI built for the car and when I inquired about selling the car the bagged engine came with the selling price. Told him to keep the engine, I don't want it as this car is so custom the original engine means nothing to me.
I've seen the engine on Ebay and no bids. If the engine means nothing to me it means less to anyone else since I own the original car.
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As mentioned it's just another low performance SBC, outside the original car. used long blocks - depending on the sellers need to sell run $500-$700 around here. Some expect more but there are still a lot of them around and hot rodders are going to LS motors killing the price on the older plain jane motors. I have a 75 L48 complete long block and L82 apart. The L82 is the better motor but I am going to use the L48 for my 69 driver and sell the L82.
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Burning Brakes
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Why don’t you take that original block, wrap it in plastic and put it aside for the day you DO sell it (you will). You will be shocked how many people do care about numbers matching when you sell and it will be worth far more to you that day.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
Buy a cheap block and go wild with it, put a million miles on it, blow it up, whatever. Be shrewd and save this one.
I know it’s cool to not care about numbers matching but don’t throw money away.
Do you know it is 100% stock and un-touched? We ran into the exact same issue with a 71 C3 we are rebuilding and when we pulled the motor and tore it apart, the Clevite bearings, fresh soft plugs and many other small items showed the motor was rebuilt. How much is a stock rebuilt motor worth? IMHO, it is worth the same to someone as your 383 is with the stock block.
Let's be real, how many people want to store a motor just to have a bunch of factory matching junk. It is all junk to a point. If anyone was to restore it and use it, they would have to rebuild the motor and many parts would not be re-used. Many people don't have or want to take up space with this.
The stock 350 is a 2 bolt main and is a heavy thick block that is good for a 383 as long as you do not go too wild. Use ARP studs everywhere.
If you want to know exactly what it costs and all parts we used, follow our thread on our build. on the Green Monster in this forum. Or out YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0G...ZtIVaI-mUGsh9Q
Let's be real, how many people want to store a motor just to have a bunch of factory matching junk. It is all junk to a point. If anyone was to restore it and use it, they would have to rebuild the motor and many parts would not be re-used. Many people don't have or want to take up space with this.
The stock 350 is a 2 bolt main and is a heavy thick block that is good for a 383 as long as you do not go too wild. Use ARP studs everywhere.
If you want to know exactly what it costs and all parts we used, follow our thread on our build. on the Green Monster in this forum. Or out YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0G...ZtIVaI-mUGsh9Q
I am aware of the costs associated with building this and I have been to your thread (great job btw!). ARP studs are already in my shop =).
The entire build is looking to be around 450hp so I know that the block will do fine either way. Thanks for your input!
When I bought my 68 restomod last summer the PO owner rebuilt and bagged the original 350/350 motor and sat it in the corner of his garage. He was absolutely sure he was never going to sell the car, until I came along
He had a real nasty, BB attitude ,408CI built for the car and when I inquired about selling the car the bagged engine came with the selling price. Told him to keep the engine, I don't want it as this car is so custom the original engine means nothing to me.
I've seen the engine on Ebay and no bids. If the engine means nothing to me it means less to anyone else since I own the original car.
He had a real nasty, BB attitude ,408CI built for the car and when I inquired about selling the car the bagged engine came with the selling price. Told him to keep the engine, I don't want it as this car is so custom the original engine means nothing to me.
I've seen the engine on Ebay and no bids. If the engine means nothing to me it means less to anyone else since I own the original car.
As mentioned it's just another low performance SBC, outside the original car. used long blocks - depending on the sellers need to sell run $500-$700 around here. Some expect more but there are still a lot of them around and hot rodders are going to LS motors killing the price on the older plain jane motors. I have a 75 L48 complete long block and L82 apart. The L82 is the better motor but I am going to use the L48 for my 69 driver and sell the L82.
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Drifting
you wont be able to sell that engine for enough to buy a new short block, so I would just keep it and mod it.
you get the best of both worlds- high performance motor that is still numbers matching.
as long as you don't have some catastrophic failure, your car is still numbers matching.
you get the best of both worlds- high performance motor that is still numbers matching.
as long as you don't have some catastrophic failure, your car is still numbers matching.
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I'm over hot rodding, stock is good enough for me old or new when it comes to Corvettes.
BUT, if I were to do it again I would go with a LS transplant. Find a good used engine and take advantage of all the great parts that are available and dedicated to these swaps.
BUT, if I were to do it again I would go with a LS transplant. Find a good used engine and take advantage of all the great parts that are available and dedicated to these swaps.
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re-use and rebuild it . maybe just make sure if it ends up at a machine shop they don't wipe the stamps off it , then you could have the 383 and make it look like the original factory motor , until you turn it on !
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Burning Brakes
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you wont be able to sell that engine for enough to buy a new short block, so I would just keep it and mod it.
you get the best of both worlds- high performance motor that is still numbers matching.
as long as you don't have some catastrophic failure, your car is still numbers matching.
you get the best of both worlds- high performance motor that is still numbers matching.
as long as you don't have some catastrophic failure, your car is still numbers matching.
Oh, there is no 'if'. The block will go to the machine shop for cleaning, boring, align-honing, cam bearings, and '383' clearancing (I may be missing a few steps :-p). Thank you for the reminder though to ensure that they do not wipe out the block stamps.
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Here is an angle......rebuild the 350. Put a roller cam, some good Dart, AFR or Brodix heads on it and a top shelf intake and fuel system......
If you do it right......you will never miss a 383.....I promise.
Want to have more fun? Ditch the TH400 (or keep it around) and put a 4 or 5 speed in it.
Smiles per Mile is very high on a reliable 350/4 speed combo.Me personally would not bother with a 383 and if I wanted a Bad *** motor.....I would go 406 or larger.
The 30-50 foot pounds the 83' gives is not worth the hassle IMHO.
Jebby
If you do it right......you will never miss a 383.....I promise.
Want to have more fun? Ditch the TH400 (or keep it around) and put a 4 or 5 speed in it.
Smiles per Mile is very high on a reliable 350/4 speed combo.Me personally would not bother with a 383 and if I wanted a Bad *** motor.....I would go 406 or larger.
The 30-50 foot pounds the 83' gives is not worth the hassle IMHO.
Jebby
Last edited by Jebbysan; 01-08-2018 at 02:09 PM.
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Burning Brakes
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Here is an angle......rebuild the 350. Put a roller cam, some good Dart, AFR or Brodix heads on it and a top shelf intake and fuel system......
If you do it right......you will never miss a 383.....I promise.
Want to have more fun? Ditch the TH400 (or keep it around) and put a 4 or 5 speed in it.
Smiles per Mile is very high on a reliable 350/4 speed combo.Me personally would not bother with a 383 and if I wanted a Bad *** motor.....I would go 406 or larger.
The 30-50 foot pounds the 83' gives is not worth the hassle IMHO.
Jebby
If you do it right......you will never miss a 383.....I promise.
Want to have more fun? Ditch the TH400 (or keep it around) and put a 4 or 5 speed in it.
Smiles per Mile is very high on a reliable 350/4 speed combo.Me personally would not bother with a 383 and if I wanted a Bad *** motor.....I would go 406 or larger.
The 30-50 foot pounds the 83' gives is not worth the hassle IMHO.
Jebby
Anyway, I already have aluminum heads, roller cam, aluminum intake, and full roller valvetrain waiting. There is also a T56 sitting in my garage which will be mated to it.