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Old 05-15-2018, 07:37 PM
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Hello.

sorry my english is translated by google.

My LH and RH DOOR SWITCH do not turn off the courtesy lights, I have a wiring concern, because this has been changed.
The thread written WHITE that comes from TRANSISTORIZED was connected to the R door switch, obviously it does not go to this place, it goes on the ampoules of courtesy.

on the connectors i
1 brown thread
1 white wire
1 blue thread

- After 20 sc the lamps go out.
- Light switch is ok

Can you help me understand the pattern please?
Thanks a lot for your help.
désolé mon anglais est traduit par google.
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Mes LH et RH DOOR SWITCH n'éteignent pas les lampes de courtoisies, j'ai un souci de cablage, car cela a été modifié.
Le fil écrit WHITE qui vient depuis TRANSISTORIZED était branché sur le contacteur de porte, visiblement il ne vas pas à cet endroit, il va sur les ampoules de courtoisie.

Sur mes connecteurs j'ai:
1 fil marron
1 fil blanc
1 fil beu

- Au bout de 20 sc les lampes s'éteignent.
- L'interrupteur des feux fonctionne.

Pouvez vous m'aider à comprendre le schéma svp?
Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.
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Old 05-15-2018, 08:47 PM
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The way I read the diagram the white goes to the door switch (both as a matter of fact) and then each switch is grounded. Switches show that with door closed circuit open. The lights should stay on for 20 seconds and then go out after you close door which you say they do.??
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Je ne sais pas sur quelle Corvette vous etes entrain de travailler.
Maintenant, pour eviter la confusion, au lieu d'utiliser "the courtesy door switch", on utilise the "pin switch."
Le fil blanc est la masse (le neutre) utilise entre "the pin switch" et les lampes d'interieur (courtesy lamps). Le LH (gauche) pin switch est a 3 contacts. Le RH pin switch (droite) est a 2 contacts. Le LH pin switch est aussi pour l'alarme.
Est ce que tu peux enlever les deux fil blancs du transistor et les connecter directement pour savoir si le transistor fonctionne ou pas?

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Old 05-16-2018, 02:04 AM
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Je ne sais pas sur quelle Corvette vous etes entrain de travailler.
Maintenant, pour eviter la confusion, au lieu d'utiliser "the courtesy door switch", on utilise the "pin switch."
Le fil blanc est la masse (le neutre) utilise entre "the pin switch" et les lampes d'interieur (courtesy lamps). Le LH (gauche) pin switch est a 3 contacts. Le RH pin switch (droite) est a 2 contacts. Le LH pin switch est aussi pour l'alarme.
Est ce que tu peux enlever les deux fil blancs du transistor et les connecter directement pour savoir si le transistor fonctionne ou pas?

If you connect the two white wire together and you have a faulty transistor unit then the light should turn off when both doors are closed. If the lights stay on then the white wire to the door switches is grounded somewhere.
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Hello , bonjour.

This is a 1982 C3 corvette

henrikse
I tried to hook up like that, but it does not work. I went to see another corvette when I press the contactors the shorty lamps cut immediately.

Antz81
I ordered a new transistor but that obviously does not work, so I sent it back and wait for another one.

bmotojoe
I tested the two white wires of the transistor together and yes the lights come on.After 20sc the lamps are cut off.
Right and left side i have 3 wire contactors so 1 brown 1 blue 1 white.
So I have a thread that is useless, the brown I think?

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henrikse
J'ai essayé de brancher comme cela, mais cela ne fonctionne pas. Je suis allé voir sur une autre corvette et quand j'appuie sur les contacteurs les courtesy lamps se coupent immédiatement.

Antz81
J'ai commandé un transistor neuf mais qui ne fonctionne visiblement pas, je l'ai donc renvoyé et en attends un autre.

bmotojoe
J'ai tester les deux fils blanc du transistor ensemble et oui les lampes s'allument. Au bout de 20sc les lampes se coupent.
Coté droit et gauche j'ai un contacteur 3 fils, donc 1 brun 1 bleu 1 blanc. J'ai donc un fil qui ne sert à rien, le marron je pense ?
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Old 05-16-2018, 12:44 PM
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I think something is being lost in translation here.

The brown wire on the door switches is used as part of an unrelated circuit. All wires on the door switches are connected to ground when the door is opened.
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Old 05-16-2018, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Antz81 View Post
I think something is being lost in translation here.

The brown wire on the door switches is used as part of an unrelated circuit. All wires on the door switches are connected to ground when the door is opened.


This is a very simple circuit.

Joining the white wires as shown in POST #4...will cause the interior light to go OFF when the doors are closed...BUT..that all depends IF the door jamb switches are actually moving and breaking the contact. You can have bad door jamb switches.

When joining or jumping the two white wires in the connector for the timer controller...it does not need to be plugged into the timer controller because you are by-passing it entirely.

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Old 05-16-2018, 08:22 PM
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Hi,

the door switches are new
Yes I thought for both white son, I will do the test tomorrow
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les switch des portes sont neuf
Oui j'ai pensé pour les deux fils blanc, je vais faire le test demain

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Old 05-17-2018, 05:10 PM
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Bonjour.

J'ai fait les tests suivants:
J'ai débranché la temporisation et connecté les fils blancs ensemble et les switch door sont ok, les lampes de courtoisies sont off quand je ferme les portes.
J'attend un nouveau transistor
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Hello.

I did the following tests:
I unplugged the timer and connected the white wires together and the switch door are ok, the vourtesy lights are off when I close the doors.
I'm waiting for a new transistor
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Old 05-17-2018, 05:14 PM
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Yes it seems like you need a new timer controller. That should fix it for you.

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Old 05-17-2018, 05:32 PM
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j'ai un neuf mais qui ne fonctionne pas, j'ai renvoyé et j'attend un autre, j'espère que oui
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I have a new one but that does not work. I sent back and I wait for another, I hope so
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Old 05-19-2018, 12:20 PM
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Hello

I continue my wiring while waiting for the new transistor.
The brown / white wire coming from the pump has been cut, it goes directly to the relay instead of going through the fuse box!
Is it dangerous for the wire to be connected like that?

Does anyone know if a hose is coming in here?


I have a jar that sends air hoses to the engine, which is fixed on the left wheel well, below the master vac, I do not know if it is in its place because I can not place my jar of ice wash properly.


If you have a diagram of the positioning of the jar I am a taker, because the one I had not being the right model and was HS, I ordered a new one.

Thank you

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Je continue mon cablage en attendant le nouveau transistor.
Le fil marron/blanc qui vient de la pompe a été coupé, il va directement au relais au lieu de passer par la boite à fusible !
Est-ce dangereux que le fil soit connecté comme çà?

Est-ce que quelqu'un sait si un tuyau vient se connecter ici ?


J'ai un bocal qui renvoi des durites d'air au moteur, qui est fixé sur le passage de roue gauche, en dessous du master vac, je ne sais pas si elle est à sa place, car je n'arrive pas à placer mon bocal de lave glace correctement.


Si vous avez un schéma du positionnement du bocal je suis preneur, car celui que j'avais n'étant pas le bon modèle et était HS, j'en ai commandé un neuf.

Merci bien
Thanks for help me

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Old 05-20-2018, 05:35 PM
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The brown / white wire coming from the pump has been cut, it goes directly to the relay instead of going through the fuse box!
Is it dangerous for the wire to be connected like that?

I do not know what you are talking about. Is this above question regarding the photo below???? I do not know what you mean by 'pump'.


Does anyone know if a hose is coming in here?


YES...the photo above is your PURGE SOLENOID. It is part of your emission system. It should have two hoses going to it...if my memory serves me correctly

I have a jar that sends air hoses to the engine, which is fixed on the left wheel well, below the master vac, I do not know if it is in its place because I can not place my jar of ice wash properly.


This is called a 'charcoal canister'. It is also a part of your emission system and also pulls vapors from you fuel tank and burns them. YES...normally this charcoal canister is mounted in a special bracket. I know that it is incorrectly mounted. Which is why your windshield washer bottle cannot be installed.

If you have a diagram of the positioning of the jar I am a taker, because the one I had not being the right model and was HS, I ordered a new one.

Thank you
I hope that this helps.

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Old 05-20-2018, 07:33 PM
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Sorry DUB;
They cut off these two brown and white threads and connected together

Désolé DUB;
Ils ont coupé ces deux fils marrons et blanc et ont relié ensemble.




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where is located this number 120 pieces towards the red arrow ?
ou est située cette pieces numéro 120 vers la flèche rouge ?




YES...the photo above is your PURGE SOLENOID. It is part of your emission system. It should have two hoses going to it...if my memory serves me correctly
Ok, thank you I will see to buy the technical documentation, I may have a picture
Ok, merci je vais voir pour acheter la documentation technique, j'aurai peut être une photo

This is called a 'charcoal canister'. It is also a part of your emission system and also pulls vapors from you fuel tank and burns them. YES...normally this charcoal canister is mounted in a special bracket. I know that it is incorrectly mounted. Which is why your windshield washer bottle cannot be installed.
Ok, I'll go see another corvette.
Ok, je vais aller voir sur une autre corvette.

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Sorry DUB;
They cut off these two brown and white threads and connected together

Désolé DUB;
Ils ont coupé ces deux fils marrons et blanc et ont relié ensemble.



That is a very strange think to do as the wires are joined together at the connection S120. Also this means that the relay for the fuel pump is not switching the pump, instead it is relying on the oil pressure switch to run the pump. I would reconnect it the way the diagram shows it to be.
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where is located this number 120 pieces towards the red arrow ?
ou est située cette pieces numéro 120 vers la flèche rouge ?


The number 120 is the fuel pump. It is located in the fuel tank.
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Antz81
sorry the wire is not cut off if the 120 is the gas pump
I'm going to take pictures and post them tonight

désolé le fil n'est pas coupé la si le 120 est la pompe à essence
je vais faire des photos et les poste ce soir

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Old 05-21-2018, 02:06 PM
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Fuel pump:
the brown and white wire that comes from the fuel pump is cut, it goes directly from the fuel pump to the relay.
It does not go through the fuse box v

The windshield washer its ok, cool.
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Pompe à essence
le fil marron et blanc qui vient de la pompe à essence est coupé, il va directement de la pompe à essence au relais.
Il ne passe pas par la boite à fusibles

Le bocal de lave glace est ok, c'est cool.


Very thanks for help me


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Old 05-26-2018, 02:48 PM
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Hello.

The charcoal filter is ok.
I'm still waiting for my transistor for the courtesy lamps.

On image # 3, this is the sensor that controls the cover flap, can you tell if the red and black wire goes well on the bottom connector and the ground wire on the blue connector?
Sorry I made a mistake by cutting the wires to clean again.
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Le filtre à charbon est ok.
j'attend toujours mon transistor pour les lampes de courtoisie.

Sur l'image n°3, il s'agit de la sonde qui commande le volet du capot, pouvez vous dire si le fil rouge et noir vas bien sur le connecteur du bas et le fil de masse sur le connecteur bleu ?
Désolé j'ai fait une erreur en coupant les fils pour refaire au propre

Very thanks for help me

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Test the solenoid when you have it out. I do not see any RED wire in the photo.

I would test it and find out because I can not confirm that the BLACK wire is the ground wire.

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there is a red and black thread and a black thread.
we do not see the red and black wire because it is on the car
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il y a un fil rouge et noir et un fil noir.
on ne vois pas la fil rouge et noir car il est sur la voiture
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