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Old Sep 16, 2018 | 09:59 AM
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The engine assembly stamp gang holders were fitted with the loose characters denoting the assembly location, assembly date, and engine suffix letters every day. The characters come from a bin full of letters or numbers and the fonts were not all exactly the same.
Interesting. If this is true, it adds interest to Al Grenning's services where he compares photos of known valid stamps which were close in time to the stamp in question. If a different font was used for some characters in the VIN which didn't change from one vehicle to the next, the stamp being questioned should show the same font. Tougher to fake if the restamper is unaware of a different font being in the mix that day.
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Interesting. If this is true, it adds interest to Al Grenning's services where he compares photos of known valid stamps which were close in time to the stamp in question. If a different font was used for some characters in the VIN which didn't change from one vehicle to the next, the stamp being questioned should show the same font. Tougher to fake if the restamper is unaware of a different font being in the mix that day.
The VIN fonts are always the same, they didnt change style, at least for several years for the mid 60s to early 70s cars. The plant/date/type engine fonts could be different and not completely consistant. You often see the letter "I" as a 1, I've noticed 3 different style M's, zero and letter O could interchange, different syle Q's things like that. I have a large photo library of pad stamps for 69 vettes and its interesting to see the variations just in that year.

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The procedure I was referring to is the Engine Assembly Code stamp. At the beginning of the shift, they know what engine batches they were tasked with building on that day. If the engine assembly plant had 8 different types of engines to build that day, they put together 8 different date code/suffix stamp fixtures. One fixture setup (like the picture above) was used all day for each specific suffix code so if Al has pictures of other Corvette engine suffix stamps for the same day and same suffix code, he can compare the fonts on an engine in question to the other known good examples. He has a lot of pictures.

The engine and transmission VIN derivative stamping was done later at the Vehicle Assembly Plant as the car was flowing down the line. VIN derivative is a different, smaller font and the last digit (or digits) were swapped for each vehicle as they are unique to that one VIN.
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Originally Posted by stingr69
The procedure I was referring to is the Engine Assembly Code stamp. At the beginning of the shift, they know what engine batches they were tasked with building on that day. If the engine assembly plant had 8 different types of engines to build that day, they put together 8 different date code/suffix stamp fixtures. One fixture setup (like the picture above) was used all day for each specific suffix code so if Al has pictures of other Corvette engine suffix stamps for the same day and same suffix code, he can compare the fonts on an engine in question to the other known good examples. He has a lot of pictures.

The engine and transmission VIN derivative stamping was done later at the Vehicle Assembly Plant as the car was flowing down the line. VIN derivative is a different, smaller font and the last digit (or digits) were swapped for each vehicle as they are unique to that one VIN.
That is correct from what I understand. The only thing I would add is the VIN numbers are a very consistent font. For example all the number 4 stamps are the same font style, all closed on top and the same shape. All the number 3 stamps were rounded, not a 'straight across top' type.

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