Almost there. New engine build.
The replacement block is an '87-'91 factory roller cam block, with the one piece rear seal, built in cam thrust plate (no retrofit roller needed or buttons), plus the intake valley is set up for the lifter retainer and the lifter bosses are machined flat at the factory. The crank for these blocks is different, because of the one piece rear seal. Also, I had to buy the factory rear seal holder, that attaches to the back of the block along with five fasteners. There is a four inch viton donut that goes into this and around the machined rear of the crank. It is exactly the same as the '68 through '86 SBC's in all other respects. It is not a Vortec. It is commonly referred to by it's stamp number, a 638 block. I picked this, because with a roller cam, you get the advantage of running a higher lift, faster ramp profile and none of the problems that a flat tappet cam has, like having to break it in or worse, wiping it out, despite all precautionary measures.
The forged engine kit was purchased at a circle track shop, that gave me a deep Hot Rod Magazine discount (like 50%!). $1,380 got me a forged 4340 steel crank, along with Icon forged 4130 pistons and forged H-beam rods, with ARP fasteners, along with a steel flywheel and even came with gaskets and bearings. The whole thing was balanced and blue printed as well. I also watched numerous YouTube vids and discovered a series of engine build up videos from an old and very experienced road and circle track racer 'cartapes'. This guy showed how to prep the bare block, because you'd be surprise at what there is to fix on a regular SBC. The oil passages often have casting flash obstructing nearly half the passage. A good example is the oil drain hole in the back of the lifter valley. Mine was just like his, a whole lot of casting flash and I went ahead and purchased a set of grinding bits from Kodiak Tools and went to work. The cartapes guy, also stress relieved every hard line on the block, inside and out, because hard angles hold the stress, versus rounded ones, spreading it. Sounds excessive, but what the heck?
638 block, below. Note the flat machined lifter surfaces and the three posts that are tapped for the cam retainer. Note the front of the block, that has the holes tapped for the cam thrust plate (there are two sizes of these thrust plates and they only differ by mere hundreds of an inch!). Also some of these 638 blocks, came from the factory set up with flat tappet cams, so make sure, to look for the tapped holes in the indicated areas. If you want to replace your tired or underpowerd SBC, why not get this block, and have a factory roller, versus an expensive retrofit kit with spacing problems and nylon buttons?
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Last edited by F22; Jan 3, 2019 at 12:04 PM.
The reason a lot of people do not use the factory roller setup is that the dogbones hit the lifters somewhere around .540-.550 lift.....so it is limited.
A lot of the work you did was unnecessary, but like you said...what the hell, right? One thing you have to remember is that a s&%tload of oil goes to the heads.....the drainback holes in the heads are as or more important than any other drain aspect.......make sure your holes are large enough......
Did you chamfer the rear main cap oiling feed hole? This is a common racer block prep item.
The real skinny is that even though the oiling system on a SBC is probably the best design there was for 50 years.....the system is flawed in several ways....one being that it oils the cam first.....and because of this.....the verticle feed from the pump to the lifter feed is too small as well as the whole feed from front to back that pressurizes the lifters. It works fine to about 6000 rpm or so.....but it starves for volume after that. Even factory Bow-Tie blocks from GM were not right.......but this is splitting hairs as very few run dedicated racing engines here. But on a SBC you will run out of oil before the block moves around so the whole 4 bolt main thing is an Urban Legend too......
The 87-91 blocks are great....and you can't beat that main seal for function.....but that is another thing......you have to separate the engine from the trans to change a main seal....2 piece you do not....(Although it is a pain).
Keep the posts and pictures coming.
Jebby
The reason a lot of people do not use the factory roller setup is that the dogbones hit the lifters somewhere around .540-.550 lift.....so it is limited.
A lot of the work you did was unnecessary, but like you said...what the hell, right? One thing you have to remember is that a s&%tload of oil goes to the heads.....the drainback holes in the heads are as or more important than any other drain aspect.......make sure your holes are large enough......
Did you chamfer the rear main cap oiling feed hole? This is a common racer block prep item.
The real skinny is that even though the oiling system on a SBC is probably the best design there was for 50 years.....the system is flawed in several ways....one being that it oils the cam first.....and because of this.....the verticle feed from the pump to the lifter feed is too small as well as the whole feed from front to back that pressurizes the lifters. It works fine to about 6000 rpm or so.....but it starves for volume after that. Even factory Bow-Tie blocks from GM were not right.......but this is splitting hairs as very few run dedicated racing engines here. But on a SBC you will run out of oil before the block moves around so the whole 4 bolt main thing is an Urban Legend too......
The 87-91 blocks are great....and you can't beat that main seal for function.....but that is another thing......you have to separate the engine from the trans to change a main seal....2 piece you do not....(Although it is a pain).
Keep the posts and pictures coming.
Jebby
Indeed, I did hog out the rear main cap oil passages, both where the oil pump goes and also where the oil exits the inner passage
. It was worth it, because even where the oil filter mounts, there's a lot of room for improvement! I did all the mods that were on that tape. Also, you're correct on the lift limits with the dog bones, versus the bar links and thanks for providing that info for others here. When I spec'd a camshaft, I called Howard Cams, looking for something with about 0.525 lift and the guy was super knowledgeable. He told me, I should run a wide LSA, because C3 Corvettes have built in vacuum leaks (via the headlight system!). With 10.2 compression, he told me, that with the cam he spec'd for me, that it'd be no problem to get 400 to 425 HP easy. I'm happy with that, because it was a blast with a little over 300 with the old L48 motor. Ran low 14's and pulled hard through all the gears, really well. Not the fastest time, but I learned something from that (and also driving my buddy's numerous vintage Austin Mini's). I came up with this: "It's not how fast it goes, it's how it goes fast!"
Last edited by jackson; Jan 3, 2019 at 10:37 PM.
In the same manner as you might check valve face-to-piston clearance, you might've used Play-Doh to check between cam bolts & timing cover.









