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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 06:28 PM
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Well I don't believe it, but the engine company that is rebuilding my engine blasted the numbers off the block. Not block numbers but the actual build date, trim,year,mfg. They were on it when I dropped it off. The car is the L46 350-350 fully loaded with air. The car is a engine numbers matching.
How important are these numbers? Our they responsible for putting the numbers back on? Does anyone do that? Will it matter when I sell it?? Im so upset over this. How could they be that stupid.

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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 06:51 PM
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they are only important to the next buyer to determine the originality of the block. Do you mean the numbers on the front engine pad containing the engine code and partial VIN? They cannt put them back and make them look 100% like the original so leave it alone if you mean the engine pad. Unless you told them you were concerned about the pad there is no reason for them to not touch it when machining.
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Old Jan 18, 2019 | 07:15 PM
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So they decked your block and erased the stampings? Not uncommon and unless you asked them to save them 1st it's kind of on you as most shops will tell you they can't save them.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 07:27 AM
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No not block number and engine code. Matching number for transmission and heads. The long number.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 07:53 AM
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So its not the front pad numbers near the water pump or it is ,, Im comfused
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 08:15 AM
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im totally confused, especially when you say tranny. your not talking about the block number that is below firewall on drivers side of block are you? cant see how that would be removed without a grinder.

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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by bugzbunny
No not block number and engine code. Matching number for transmission and heads. The long number.
Describe exactly where on the block the numbers have been removed. Are you referring to date codes and casting number on the side of the block? If the engine code and partial VIN on the pad are undisturbed you have no issue.
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Old Jan 19, 2019 | 11:52 AM
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So confused.

Perhaps a picture would help?
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Old Jan 20, 2019 | 08:59 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stingr69
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reminds me of a story from a guy who bought a 435hp car from pro team with a reproduction block (whatever that is), guy disassembles motor and takes the block to the quarter car wash, as he is blasting the block something goes flying, it was his casting numbers, they were made from JB Weld.....
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
reminds me of a story from a guy who bought a 435hp car from pro team with a reproduction block (whatever that is), guy disassembles motor and takes the block to the quarter car wash, as he is blasting the block something goes flying, it was his casting numbers, they were made from JB Weld.....
Gary R sent me to look at a pumpkin here. The guy told me he could put any build date on it I wanted. AND, that was that.................
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:04 AM
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Somehow we are talking apples & oranges here. The block casting # a date code are cast on the block.& stamped build date & VIN # are stamped on. Neither could be blasted off but would have been machined or ground off. Yes I also have seen altered casting #'S & #'S stuck on.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:33 AM
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Numbers would have to be ground off. Decking removes stampings. Cast a die grinder and time why it serves no point; other than for show cars looking for smooth as glass engine surfaces.. Either way to to returning to claiming matching numbers even though its not is to find a correct block casting and restamp it. This is also why a documented survivors can be worth more than restos. Too much fraud in restos to day. There can be more restorations with paperwork than cars actually built.

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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 11:39 AM
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Agreed. I think there are more 57 Chevys now than GM built.

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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 01:26 PM
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More than twice as many '69 Z/28's exist now as compared to 1969.
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 03:57 PM
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In 1957, Ford out sold Chevy 2 to 1, but you never see a 57 Ford anymore.
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32 Ford coupes? There are a lot more in existance now than were made in 1931-32.

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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by redvetracr
reminds me of a story from a guy who bought a 435hp car from pro team with a reproduction block (whatever that is), guy disassembles motor and takes the block to the quarter car wash, as he is blasting the block something goes flying, it was his casting numbers, they were made from JB Weld.....
I would have never thought that could be done??
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Old Jan 21, 2019 | 09:45 PM
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If they can't save the stampings, take it somewhere else. My 70 is original drive train front to back. When I took the car to Scroggins Machine in Houston to freshen it up, the first thing they told me is not to worry about the stampings. They told me they know how important they are. Apparently it helps to take the motor to a shop full of "car guys." (and gals)
Hopefully if you ever sell your car it won't be a deal breaker or cause the price to go down.
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