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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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Looking for opinions about frame off restorations. After a frame off restoration does the car drive the same? Is it as tight? Thanks.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 10:58 AM
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Why wouldn't it? Depending on what you do, it would probably drive better. No one (?) woukld do a frame off without rebuilding front- and rear suspension and steering with new bushings etc. at the same time, which is what makes the car more "tight". On the other hand, that can be done without doing a complete frame off.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 12:08 PM
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this is my 3rd chrome bumper BB. all were in great shape but this one had a 55k dollar frame off and I must say there is a big difference in how it rides and handles. its WAY better. it also has a composite rear spring which makes it even better.
everything is brand new or rebuilt so I would expect nothing else.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 01:20 PM
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Night and day, no clunks rattles etc literally like a brand new car would be. Worth it!
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 03:50 PM
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if the car is tired and wore out then yes it will be different. any time you replace and rebuild wore out parts you will notice a change.
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Old Jan 11, 2020 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Johan74
Why wouldn't it? Depending on what you do, it would probably drive better. No one (?) woukld do a frame off without rebuilding front- and rear suspension and steering with new bushings etc. at the same time, which is what makes the car more "tight". On the other hand, that can be done without doing a complete frame off.
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Above is true. Unless you want to sandblast/Boil the frame to remove any internal rust there is no need for removing the body. I lifted the body of my car 8" and was able to replace all body mounts/rubber bushings/fuel lines/etc easily. I also rebuilt all the suspension and brakes.

See pictures at https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-project.html

A table of contents is on the first page to find repairs easier.
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
Above is true. Unless you want to sandblast/Boil the frame to remove any internal rust there is no need for removing the body. I lifted the body of my car 8" and was able to replace all body mounts/rubber bushings/fuel lines/etc easily. I also rebuilt all the suspension and brakes.

See pictures at https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...e-project.html

A table of contents is on the first page to find repairs easier.
If you do pull the body, you´re going to want to adress EVERYTHING, and it will cost more money and take longer time before you can enjoy your car again than you originally had planned. So unless there is real need (i.e frame or birdcage problems) think really hard about this.
What model you have is also a factor. The more appreciated C3 years might gain value, but for the lesser priced years it might not be worth the time and money from a financial standpoint.
But if you do decide to do it, all the knowledge you need is available in this forum!

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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 11:32 AM
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I pulled the body and am really glad that I did as I found issues that just wouldn’t have been possible to fix with the body on.

And I much prefer a body off restoration than a frame off as it is very hard to turn the car upside down to pull the frame off.😀😀😀😀
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Old Jan 12, 2020 | 11:33 AM
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If you do it right, its better than Chevrolet built it. I know mine is.
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Old Jan 13, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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The biggest thing with a frame off is ensuring that all of the correct sealers and coatings are applied to ensure the car is sealed like it was from the factory. Most people do not put ALL of the foam anti-rattle anti-squeak seals in place, my biggest pet peve about restored cars is when you shut the door and it doesn't sound like an original car or when the windows do not roll up correctly.
KEEP IN MIND THAT IN addition to the ACTUAL APPLICATION OF THE PAINT... Most metallic painted cars are not correct regarding paint color/metal flake content.

Most restored cars have too much PAINT EVERYWHERE, on the car, on the engine, on the frame, on everything...

IMHO the best compliment my restorations can receive is to be mistaken for a low mileage unrestored original...
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The biggest thing with a frame off is ensuring that all of the correct sealers and coatings are applied to ensure the car is sealed like it was from the factory. Most people do not put ALL of the foam anti-rattle anti-squeak seals in place, my biggest pet peve about restored cars is when you shut the door and it doesn't sound like an original car or when the windows do not roll up correctly.
KEEP IN MIND THAT IN addition to the ACTUAL APPLICATION OF THE PAINT... Most metallic painted cars are not correct regarding paint color/metal flake content.

Most restored cars have too much PAINT EVERYWHERE, on the car, on the engine, on the frame, on everything...

IMHO the best compliment my restorations can receive is to be mistaken for a low mileage unrestored original...
I agree with all you said except the paint "not correct" part. There are only so many people who prefer a dull, oversprayed blotchy metallic paint job that factory did just to be "correct". My two part paint on my Corvette is far superior to what GM did, as well as the frame and most steel parts powdercoated......which is better for long term durability, and most importantly looks good. I have no interest in my car being the same quality level as GM built it.....I can easily do better than that. And based on most on this forum, my 77 is a worthless piece of junk anyway because it doesn't have chrome bumpers and that nobody would buy unless I give it away.

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In my opinion a origional 50,000 MI Corvette with only wore out parts replaced will drive better than a body off ones. I have has had hundreds of Corvettes manty body off including ones I have had done for NCRS & BG & they don't drive as well as a well cared for lower mile origional one.I have had this discussion with many guys in the business & we all agree that the factory built Corvettes feel better than any body off.
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