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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 01:41 AM
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I was looking at 69s online and came across one that had been for sale and all of the pictures were still up. As I perused through them I got to the interior and found this picture. What are those belts for?


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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 01:51 AM
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T top hold downs. My 77 has a bag that the tops go in, then you can put them in the rear compartment and strap them down.
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Originally Posted by ZAKsPop
I was looking at 69s online and came across one that had been for sale and all of the pictures were still up. As I perused through them I got to the interior and found this picture. What are those belts for?
Your photo shows two sets of belts and I'm not sure which confuses you. So...


The yellow arrows point to the shoulder belts; the blue arrows point to the t-top hold down straps mentioned by UnintendedVettenancy.
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 10:58 AM
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T Top Hold Downs? Damn! I've been telling my wife they're child restraints! If she finds out i'm gonna be in big trouble.
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Damn, something else I have to buy.
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Damn, something else I have to buy.

LOL! It never ends, does it!?
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Old Apr 11, 2020 | 06:50 PM
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Damn, something else I have to buy.
You don't need them if you leave the T-Tops at home!

If you do use them, several of the vendors sell nicely padded T-Top cases. They seem to work a bit better than the vinyl sleeves. You may still get some scratches, though.
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You don't need them if you leave the T-Tops at home!

If you do use them, several of the vendors sell nicely padded T-Top cases. They seem to work a bit better than the vinyl sleeves. You may still get some scratches, though.
Yeah, I know I don't have to have them but I do want to carry my T-Tops with me if I drive down to the coast. It is about 70 miles. Don't want to get caught without them.
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Back in the 1970's I put my youngest daughter (2 years old) in a Punkin' Seat which was seat belted in the front seat, and my oldest daughter (4 years old) in the storage compartment. So, I guess she did have those 'child restraints' back there to keep her safe. We had some fun rides back in the day, and the kids loved it. And we all survived, regardless of the "doom & gloom-ers". Hmmm.... They are now [almost] 52 and 50; and the old man turned 75 yesterday! Time flies, when you're havin' fun...............
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Back in the 1970's I put my youngest daughter (2 years old) in a Punkin' Seat which was seat belted in the front seat, and my oldest daughter (4 years old) in the storage compartment. So, I guess she did have those 'child restraints' back there to keep her safe. We had some fun rides back in the day, and the kids loved it. And we all survived, regardless of the "doom & gloom-ers". Hmmm.... They are now [almost] 52 and 50; and the old man turned 75 yesterday! Time flies, when you're havin' fun...............
HA- this is how I spent my childhood....and lived through it!!!




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How about the rear facing seat in the station wagons we all used to jump on while dad was doing 75 with a beer in his hand?!
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HA- this is how I spent my childhood....and lived through it!!!
Many kids didn't.
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Originally Posted by 67:72
Many kids didn't.
Yeah, back then we didn't hear about car crashes unless they were local so we had no idea about fatal auto crashes elsewhere.
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My apologies for taking this thread to a dark and depressing place, but I feel it is an important point to make. I've long argued with family members about why we need all these devices and laws for today's vehicles, so one day sought out some statistics. This is from the National Safety Council using data from 1913 to 2018.
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-ve...-by-age-group/

I selected 1950 to most recent. The automobile deaths of children under 15yo are the two lower graph lines. Children under 5 had a high of 12 deaths per 100k population in 1969; down to 2.2 in 2018. Children 5 to 14 had a high of 10.7 in 1972; down to 1.9 in 2018. What the graph doesn't show are deaths per mile. Given the miles driven per year are substantially greater now than in 1950; I would think such a graph would be even more dramatic than this one. You can also see the drops in all ages from 1980 to present. Today's automobile laws, regulations, and safety features have dramatically improved fatality rates across the board. Who wants to go back to the "good old days"?



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Originally Posted by 67:72
My apologies for taking this thread to a dark and depressing place, but I feel it is an important point to make. I've long argued with family members about why we need all these devices and laws for today's vehicles, so one day sought out some statistics. This is from the National Safety Council using data from 1913 to 2018.
https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/motor-ve...-by-age-group/

I selected 1950 to most recent. The automobile deaths of children under 15yo are the two lower graph lines. Children under 5 had a high of 12 deaths per 100k population in 1969; down to 2.2 in 2018. Children 5 to 14 had a high of 10.7 in 1972; down to 1.9 in 2018. What the graph doesn't show are deaths per mile. Given the miles driven per year are substantially greater now than in 1950; I would think such a graph would be even more dramatic than this one. You can also see the drops in all ages from 1980 to present. Today's automobile laws, regulations, and safety features have dramatically improved fatality rates across the board. Who wants to go back to the "good old days"?

Oh- I get it. When I was a kid I didn't wear a helmet riding my bike either.

Apples to oranges-

You CANNOT compare a 1950s car anywhere near today's cars- or even 25 years ago when ABS was basically a standard feature... Computer modeling- crumple zones - car seat technology etc... AND the medical technologies have dramatically increased as well. Even life expectancy has increased almost 20%...

Keep in mind- with today's current outlook- you are not allowed to drive your Corvette because you might possibly infect someone-

How soon will the Government deem "old" cars unsafe at any speed and we can no longer drive them...

Just sayin- rant off...
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The Corvair was deemed unsafe at any speed close to 60 years ago. I've got 3 . One of the first things I did was put a set of seat belts in my 63 as they didn't come with them. Safety belts became standard in the late 60's . Further safety features have saved thousands of lives . In the early 60's when you had to stop suddenly ,as a parent you put your arm back to hold your kid back in the seat.
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My mother died an a traffic accident in April 1980. No seatbelt. Her head went through the windshield. She was 33 years old. Still feels like yesterday.
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Originally Posted by ZAKsPop
My mother died an a traffic accident in April 1980. No seatbelt. Her head went through the windshield. She was 33 years old. Still feels like yesterday.
So sorry to hear that-

I too was in a car accident on October 23,1978- driving my 68 Vette at 16 years old.

No seatbelt either- broke my cheekbone - hardest bone in your body- in 7 places- had my mouth wired shut for 3 months. Hit the windshield header. I always wear my seatbelt now.

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Geez 67:72
Here's a perfect example of how the Nanny's react to a simple comment or picture.
The safest thing to do I guess, is to ban all cars.
I find it hard to compare a 50's car, basically a steel tank, to today's cars, with a straight face.
Back to the horse and buggy days. Well, not really becuase horses were unsafe too and you would have to pick up the "apples" because a horse craps where ever it wants.
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