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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 12:45 PM
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Take a look at this pad. The engine code does not look to bad, but the vin derivative looks horrible.
I wanted to take a look at the car, but think the pad may have had a crude restamp?
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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by jhudec
...the vin derivative looks horrible...
I agree

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...I'm no engine pad stamp expert, but have seen many, many of them and have attended several judging schools on them. Wouldn't spend my money on this one, but that's IMHO only.

...just saw your not that far from me. Is this a local car for sale in our area?

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Old Nov 25, 2020 | 08:24 PM
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Bad pad. Not only is the vin derivative bad, but when I compare the Tonawanda stamping to originals, the W is not even close to correct, nor are the zeros. Nor the C. Plus, these motors were batch built, and there is no indication that March 3 is a day they were built. This casts doubt upon the validity of the entire car. I certainly would not bid on it as an LS6!

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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 09:40 AM
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62corvette could you elaborate on the "Batch built"? GM would build a certain amounts of a specific motor in a row and warehouse them until needed? Is this info available anywhere? Very interesting I was not aware of that but it makes sense. I wonder how far in advance did they project the needed production for. Thanks Ike
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Old Nov 26, 2020 | 10:31 AM
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Gang stamp won't allow the letters to be that close together (touching almost in this case).
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Looks like a re-stamped LS5 to make it an LS6. Looks like the C is stamped over the original C in the vin stamp.



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try this for a view of stamp pads....
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This car sold today at auction for $51k. Anyone know who bought it?
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Old Dec 5, 2020 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pikeslayer
This car sold today at auction for $51k. Anyone know who bought it?
I watched it online, too. (Skipco auto auction). Pre-sale pics only indicated that MANY parts were missing, but weren’t adequate to determine if it is an LS6 or a clone. If real, it was well-bought. If a clone, there were at least two people who weren’t savvy enough to know it was a clone.
Also, there are plenty of LS6 aficionados that will know in perpetuity that the engine in the car (this one or any other one) isn’t the original. Just like L-88’s and L-89’s, etc., the burden of proof of originality lies on the owner, and with those cars there are so many little details to duplicate and unique parts that are impossible to find that it is almost impossible to properly “recreate” them.
They only made 188 of them, so good luck finding parts!

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thats alot of patina, so the restamp would have to have been many years ago, sure looks like a 50 year old stamp.. but the characters and spacing is really bad
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Originally Posted by 62corvette
I watched it online, too. (Skipco auto auction). Pre-sale pics only indicated that MANY parts were missing, but weren’t adequate to determine if it is an LS6 or a clone. If real, it was well-bought. If a clone, there were at least two people who weren’t savvy enough to know it was a clone.
Also, there are plenty of LS6 aficionados that will know in perpetuity that the engine in the car (this one or any other one) isn’t the original. Just like L-88’s and L-89’s, etc., the burden of proof of originality lies on the owner, and with those cars there are so many little details to duplicate and unique parts that are impossible to find that it is almost impossible to properly “recreate” them.
They only made 188 of them, so good luck finding parts!

Don't forget the 12 ZR2 that make a nice round 200.
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Old Dec 5, 2020 | 09:43 PM
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Paul, who can say authoritatively that it is 188 plus 12 rather than 188 including the 12? I am curious as to which it really is. There are presumptions both ways.
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Mine is that the LS6 option cost around $1200 for the 188 produced. Then the ZR2 option cost around $1700. So $1200 for the engine and another $500 for the Trans, Brakes, Clutch, Suspension and Radiator. That is my opinion of the reason for adding the 12 to the 188.

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