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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 03:35 PM
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I have ventured back to the Vette world with a new to me 1982 base model. I have been fixing valve covers leaks and transmission leaks for the past few days, which I expected.
Here is my question. With the car running with my foot on the brake, when I place the Transmission in reverse, the back of the car raises significantly. When I put it in Drive, with my foot still on the brake, without moving, the car lowers back to its beginning stance. Normal? If not, where do I start looking. Thank you.

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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 04:19 PM
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My '82 does same. I really never thought much about it!
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 04:29 PM
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My '82 does same. I really never thought much about it!
This is my third vette, second C3. I just don't remember being so harsh. It seems as if there is something wrong somewhere. Maybe just being paranoid. LOL
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My 82 has a fairly consistent squat when going into reverse. It's an abrupt thud which can be disconcerting initially.
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It's possible the large rubber cushion at the lower front part of the differential is loose or flattened so much it is allowing the differential to cause the rear end to raise/lower.

What is your idle RPM with the car in gear/foot on brake? Too much idle RPM can compound the problem.
Is the rear spring and both shocks in good shape?

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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 05:18 PM
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I have had mine since new. Has always acted the same way.
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
Rookie guess:

It's possible the large rubber cushion at the lower front part of the differential is loose or flattened so much it is allowing the differential to cause the rear end to raise/lower.

What is your idle RPM with the car in gear/foot on brake? Too much idle RPM can compound the problem.
Is the rear spring and both shocks in good shape?
RPM is at idle. Everything looks good ( to me) I thought the same but was not sure
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by JC82
My 82 has a fairly consistent squat when going into reverse. It's an abrupt thud which can be disconcerting initially.
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I have had mine since new. Has always acted the same way.
Good to know. Thank you!!!!
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Old Feb 7, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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My 1974 did that from day one. Totally normal.
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Its just the torque of your motor trying to turn your rear axle with the brakes on. Its just a soft spring that is more for comfort than performance.

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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Thank you all for the reassuring comments. One less thing to worry about.
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I would be on the safe side and check the front differential bushing as Doorgunner suggested.
When I purchased my 73 it had a slight clunk and the rear lifted slightly higher than I thought it should when shifting into reverse.
After I purchased it I had a safety inspection done on the car, and they told me it was something common when the diff bushing was warn.
They installed a new one for me and it greatly improved the reverse squat and no more clunk.
The one they removed was hard, cracked and deteriorated.
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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 12:34 PM
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Like Doorgunner and Old Car Bum said, check the bushing on the diff. Your car will 49 yrs old. That bushing has most likely never been changed. Believe it's called a snubber bushing. Good luck.
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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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I have owned over 20 C3's since 1970, some bought new and some used and they all do it. It's one of those C3 things... The squat is normal. A clunk isn't.
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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 01:26 PM
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Most likely the front mount/ snubber on the Differential is KAPUT!
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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kingkohlmn
Like Doorgunner and Old Car Bum said, check the bushing on the diff. Your car will 49 yrs old. That bushing has most likely never been changed. Believe it's called a snubber bushing. Good luck.
Except for the 49 year old part. I'm thinking 39

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What is the idle speed of your engine, once it has fully warmed up? If the idle speed is significantly higher than GM specifications, that could cause the symptoms you are observing. And, if that is the case, there is some 'issue' with the controls system. Perhaps the ECM is not recognizing that the engine temp has warmed and is maintaining a "choke idle" setting. A defective temp sensor might cause such an issue...but it likely would NOT cause a 'trouble code' to be issued by the ECM (no check engine light would show).
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What is the idle speed of your engine, once it has fully warmed up? If the idle speed is significantly higher than GM specifications, that could cause the symptoms you are observing. And, if that is the case, there is some 'issue' with the controls system. Perhaps the ECM is not recognizing that the engine temp has warmed and is maintaining a "choke idle" setting. A defective temp sensor might cause such an issue...but it likely would NOT cause a 'trouble code' to be issued by the ECM (no check engine light would show).
Good point. I'am also having some idle issues when cold. There is no clunking sounds. I ordered a CTS and a snubber today. Will be changing both soon. Thank you
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Every independent rear suspension, automatic transmission car I have owned does the squat when put into gear. Some more than others but they all did.
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Originally Posted by doorgunner
Rookie guess:

It's possible the large rubber cushion at the lower front part of the differential is loose or flattened so much it is allowing the differential to cause the rear end to raise/lower.

What is your idle RPM with the car in gear/foot on brake? Too much idle RPM can compound the problem.
Is the rear spring and both shocks in good shape?
Originally Posted by 7T1vette
What is the idle speed of your engine, once it has fully warmed up? If the idle speed is significantly higher than GM specifications, that could cause the symptoms you are observing. And, if that is the case, there is some 'issue' with the controls system. Perhaps the ECM is not recognizing that the engine temp has warmed and is maintaining a "choke idle" setting. A defective temp sensor might cause such an issue...but it likely would NOT cause a 'trouble code' to be issued by the ECM (no check engine light would show).
These responses were my solutions. I thank ALL who contributed because I was able to rule other possibilities. I did not realize that my Idle speed was too high. I changed the Coolant Temperature sensor with a new style one. I calibrated my Throttle Positioning sensor, changed my stat from 160 to 180 and changed my radiator cap. I had an outdated CTS that did not register the motor being warm because my thermostat was too low. My radiator cap was not allowing my coolant to build pressure and my TPS was not adjusted properly. All these changes worked perfect together and lowered my idle to where my rear end does not raise significantly when I put the car in reverse. Thank you!

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