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Agreed. header wrap is just horrible. as a Harley Mechanic for many years, nothing erks me more than idiots that wrap there Harley pipes with this junk. And it doesn't just look like S$!t . it rots out the pipes as well. As per heat under the hood causing all these failures. I would instead be looking at the ground cable from block to frame.
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All I can say is when I purchased my '74 back in '85, The previous owner put on the chrome hooker headers (which were very dented and rusty) my engine did not run hotter but the under the hood temps were very much higher than it is now with factory manifolds.
It used to vapor lock on very hot days, has not done it since the switch to manifolds. I also had to replace all the under hood wiring due to all the pastic plugs being brittle. Headers sound cool and look coool and out perform the factory manifolds, but I enjoy the lower under hood temps and cooler floor boards
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All I can say is when I purchased my '74 backin in '85, The previous owner put on the chrome hooker headers (which were very dented and rusty) my engine did not run hotter but the under the hood temps were very much higher than it is now with factory manifolds.
It used to vapor lock on very hot days, has not done it since the switch to manifolds. I also had to replace all the under hood wiring due to all the pastic plugs being brittle. Headers sound cool and look coool and out perform the factory manifolds, but I enjoy the lower under hood temps and cooler floor boards
Chrome headers are the worst.....most brands don’t even offer them anymore, but in the 80’s....that was all there was for looks....
My friends 32’ 3-Window blown small block had chrome headers that radiated so much heat it puked the temperature sender in the head to reading 30 degrees hotter than it was.....
Ceramic coating is right up there with Mini-Starters of things that changed the Hot Rod industry....mandatory on anything I own or build.
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I have a clutch fan that's mounted vertically. I have ss headers. Heat rises. Air flow across a hot surface removes heat. A large portion of air from the fan blows across the top of the engine and under the hood. This air exits through the side vents and underneath the car. The biggest enemy to electronic/electrical devices is heat. Most electrical fans are mounted on the rad. The rad is angled. The air flow from the electrical fans points downwards with little to no flow over the top of the engine where it is needed most. Not saying heat is your problem but no air flow up top isn't helping your situation.
Stan, a member of our local Corvette group (here in Orlando, FL) has a 70 with a 383. He also has an aluminum radiator with electric fans. But he also still has the mechanical fan. When I asked him about running both, he said he found that the downward angle of the electric fans was pushing air under the engine, and he found the top of his engine compartment was getting very hot. So he re-installed the mechanical fan simply to move air across the top of the engine bay & out the side vents. You may consider this, and see if it will help. Electrical parts subjected to extreme heat will fail.... ask any electrician.
I have a clutch fan that's mounted vertically. I have ss headers. Heat rises. Air flow across a hot surface removes heat. A large portion of air from the fan blows across the top of the engine and under the hood. This air exits through the side vents and underneath the car. The biggest enemy to electronic/electrical devices is heat. Most electrical fans are mounted on the rad. The rad is angled. The air flow from the electrical fans points downwards with little to no flow over the top of the engine where it is needed most. Not saying heat is your problem but no air flow up top isn't helping your situation.
Interesting.....maybe the factory equipment isn't so bad. I find many times that so called "improvement" are just another way to do something, and many times comes with just a new set of problems. My personal experience with my car just differs from what I read on this forum. First......I have almost ZERO heat in the cabin of the car........I have factory heat system installed, with factory vacuum shutoff valve......and I can drive in 90 degree weather in PA, and its is by no means HOT in the car. My right foot is six inches away from my header collector.....and I feel no heat. And I have UNCOATED stainless headers, and nothing melts under the hood, and in fact, I don't think my underhood temperature are even high. I have a good Dewitts radiator, with factory fan clutch......air flows into the engine bay, and right out the side vents and out the bottom.....NO HEAT PROBLEMS at all. I run an open 14 inch air filter.....and the engine breathes well. Lots of people with heat problems, that for some reason, my car does not. Why is that?
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1958
Interesting.....maybe the factory equipment isn't so bad. I find many times that so called "improvement" are just another way to do something, and many times comes with just a new set of problems. My personal experience with my car just differs from what I read on this forum. First......I have almost ZERO heat in the cabin of the car........I have factory heat system installed, with factory vacuum shutoff valve......and I can drive in 90 degree weather in PA, and its is by no means HOT in the car. My right foot is six inches away from my header collector.....and I feel no heat. And I have UNCOATED stainless headers, and nothing melts under the hood, and in fact, I don't think my underhood temperature are even high. I have a good Dewitts radiator, with factory fan clutch......air flows into the engine bay, and right out the side vents and out the bottom.....NO HEAT PROBLEMS at all. I run an open 14 inch air filter.....and the engine breathes well. Lots of people with heat problems, that for some reason, my car does not. Interesting. Why is that?
And I was beginning to think that I was the only one who has an engine bay setup like yours. But hey, some people will believe anything they read. Some of these people are just not knowledgeable enough and are easily swayed, so its not their fault. But I'm guilty too buying stuff that was over hyped. Live and learn.
I had my headers coated with Jet-Hot. They ceramic coat the header inside and out. It cuts heat by about 50% and extends the life of your headers from rusting out. Great stuff!
I dont know what Inned to do. Mine bakes my feet when I drive more than about 20-30 minutes. It gets SUPER hot in the compartment, but the car never runs hot.