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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 09:12 PM
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Is it normal for oil pressure to be 40 at idle when warm and then 75 when I’m hard on the throttle
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 09:37 PM
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sounds like a high flow pump or high pressure spring has been added. Normal would be a bit lower than that. more like 25 -60
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Mine's around 25 at idle...
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Not "normal" for a stock oil pump to create that much pressure. Either the over-pressure valve spring has been changed in a stock pump, or the pump has been replaced with a non-stock pump with different pressure schedule. For a 'race' engine, that oil pressure may be required; for a street engine it is unnecessary and wasteful on fuel.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Not "normal" for a stock oil pump to create that much pressure. Either the over-pressure valve spring has been changed in a stock pump, or the pump has been replaced with a non-stock pump with different pressure schedule. For a 'race' engine, that oil pressure may be required; for a street engine it is unnecessary and wasteful on fuel.
How does the high pressure waste fuel? Mine 78 L82 reads high after the engine rebuild but some of it may be the gauge.

I do only get 10 MPG w/ 3:55 gears.

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Originally Posted by LenWoodruff
How does the high pressure waste fuel? Mine 78 L82 reads high after the engine rebuild but some of it may be the gauge.

I do only get 10 MPG w/ 3:55 gears.
Technically, and realistically, it takes more HP to drive the pump.
I doubt you would notice it showing up in the fuel economy at all though. There are a lot more things that take more HP than the difference between a high flow oil pump and a standard oil pump.
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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1973bluevettee
Is it normal for oil pressure to be 40 at idle when warm and then 75 when I’m hard on the throttle
What weight engine oil are you using?
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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 01:47 PM
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Some of us with warmed up and well used engines get about 10 PSI at idle and 40 when on it. That's on a good day.
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What viscosity oil are you using??
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What viscosity oil are you using??
5w-30
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GM thought that oil pump 'waste' was important enough to create one that would regulate pressure to increase with RPM, so you got more lube when it is needed. For a stock, street vehicle that makes the most sense to me. Fuel saved is fuel that can take me further and keep more money in my wallet.
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One thing not mentioned is whether the oil pressure gage is accurate. I don't think a single gage in my car is accurate......maybe the voltmeter. The fuel quantity is way off, the water temp is 30 degrees low, the clock.....forgettaboutit, And my oil pressure reads 80 at cruise RPM.......with 10W30 oil, stock pump, new engine. ON a real hot day, it might get down to 45 at idle. If I cared, I would try to check oil pressure with a calibrated gage, plugged somewhere into the pressure system.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 07:45 AM
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Took these pictures of the guages on my stock 73 L82 on July 9, 2021, sunny mid 80's. Idle and cruising about 2500 RPM. 10W30 oil.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1958
One thing not mentioned is whether the oil pressure gage is accurate. I don't think a single gage in my car is accurate......maybe the voltmeter. The fuel quantity is way off, the water temp is 30 degrees low, the clock.....forgettaboutit, And my oil pressure reads 80 at cruise RPM.......with 10W30 oil, stock pump, new engine. ON a real hot day, it might get down to 45 at idle. If I cared, I would try to check oil pressure with a calibrated gage, plugged somewhere into the pressure system.
My 78 has same problems on its gauges. Temp too low, Oil to high, gas too high, clock stopped man many years ago.
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Old Sep 6, 2021 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LenWoodruff
My 78 has same problems on its gauges. Temp too low, Oil to high, gas too high, clock stopped man many years ago.
perfect gauges! never gonna overheat, lose oil pressure or run out of gas! and you got lotsa time too!
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Those stock gauges are not there to tell you 'exact' anything. They are there so you can recognize with something has CHANGED. Your task as a driver is to observe how the vehicle is behaving by way of your gauging. If all parameters appear as they have in the past, all is good--whether the gauges are accurate or not. If you notice that some parameter is significantly different than it has been, you need to investigate why that parameter CHANGED. It may still read an 'acceptable' value; but if it has changed, something is fundamentally different and that should be investigated.
So, the stock gauges do not need to be ACCURATE; but they do need to be REPEATABLE. And my experience says that the stock GM gauges are repeatable.
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Originally Posted by 7T1vette
Those stock gauges are not there to tell you 'exact' anything. They are there so you can recognize with something has CHANGED. Your task as a driver is to observe how the vehicle is behaving by way of your gauging. If all parameters appear as they have in the past, all is good--whether the gauges are accurate or not. If you notice that some parameter is significantly different than it has been, you need to investigate why that parameter CHANGED. It may still read an 'acceptable' value; but if it has changed, something is fundamentally different and that should be investigated.
So, the stock gauges do not need to be ACCURATE; but they do need to be REPEATABLE. And my experience says that the stock GM gauges are repeatable.
Exactly. Once you get used to the "normal" position you "watch" closely for abnormalities.
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Originally Posted by 1973bluevettee
5w-30
5W30 is not intended for your car.
You need 10W30.
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After the rebuild on my 78 L82 the builder said to use Valvoline VR1 20w-50
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10W30 - The first number in the oil rating is the cold start up viscosity. Colder climates typically require a lower number which is thinner at the low temperatures. The second number is the rating when the car is warmed up. Most car manufacturers give a range of oil viscosities based on lowest anticipated temperature that the car will see. Here is the page out of my 1968 manual.


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