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Old Sep 18, 2021 | 06:14 AM
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I wrote a couple weeks ago about this car, I found a company that is online who states if we give them the vin and $895 they can get us a title from out of state then mail us the title and we transfer it into a NJ title. Anyone ever do something like this ? it is legal we asked NJ DMV but just wanted to be sure this company is on the up and up before we toss them a grand.
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Buy the car and move to Alabama, no title required. As for the $895 title can't help there only to say it has a run Forest run flavor to it.

If I really wanted this 82 Vette I would fill out a Bill of Sale with all the details and then some and have the owner sign that and hand her $2,000. Take the car and Bill of Sale to your local DMV and ask where do we start getting a title.

Come to think of it if I was buying this car I could care less if it had a title, maybe I should buy it.
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I wouldn't buy anything without a title, cause you don't know if 80 years ago was reported stolen, and guess what, they take the car.

Buyer be beware means something today.
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I wouldn't buy anything without a title, cause you don't know if 80 years ago was reported stolen, and guess what, they take the car.

Buyer be beware means something today.
Crazy talk to make that statement. In the state of Alabama automotive titles didn't start until 1977 so everything pre 77 doesn't get issued a title regardless if you buy the car in state or out of state. I have sold several high end pre 77 Vettes without a title and buyer had no issues getting a title in their state that required a title.

All 1976 and prior year model motor vehicles are exempt from the titling provisions of Chapter 8, Title 32, Code of Alabama 1975.
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I think buying any car without a title is crazy IMO. I would only consider it if it was my closet friend and I knew the entire history of the car and the reason why the title was missing. Maybe there is a good reason why there is no title? Just because you have a "new" title in your hand in this case, does not mean that it is a clear title. What if there is a lean on the car somewhere? Not requiring a title in AL is crazy to me, what kind of state is that? Sounds like it could become very risky to me regardless of how successful you have been selling and buying cars there.

I think that "buyer beware" is VERY appropriate with this one, unless you don't care if you lose money if it goes wrongly for you. GL with your purchase if you do buy it.
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Every state is different, in NY cars didn't have titles pre 1973 / but they had a transferrable registration. What state is the car registered in ? What state are you buying it from ?? What state was it last titled in ?
DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM A STATE THAT REQUIRES TITLES & THE SELLER FROM THAT STATE DOESN'T HAVE IT !! That's your proof of ownership & it will also in NY show any & all liens or salvage issues. Again every state is different. If there is No title there MUST be other legal documents to transfer ownership.
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Originally Posted by Mr D.
Buy the car and move to Alabama, no title required. As for the $895 title can't help there only to say it has a run Forest run flavor to it.

If I really wanted this 82 Vette I would fill out a Bill of Sale with all the details and then some and have the owner sign that and hand her $2,000. Take the car and Bill of Sale to your local DMV and ask where do we start getting a title.

Come to think of it if I was buying this car I could care less if it had a title, maybe I should buy it.
you have never lived in NJ, IMPOSSIBLE HERE
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I think buying any car without a title is crazy IMO. I would only consider it if it was my closet friend and I knew the entire history of the car and the reason why the title was missing. Maybe there is a good reason why there is no title? Just because you have a "new" title in your hand in this case, does not mean that it is a clear title. What if there is a lean on the car somewhere? Not requiring a title in AL is crazy to me, what kind of state is that? Sounds like it could become very risky to me regardless of how successful you have been selling and buying cars there.

I think that "buyer beware" is VERY appropriate with this one, unless you don't care if you lose money if it goes wrongly for you. GL with your purchase if you do buy it.
we had the vin run and then had police run iy, NO TITLE ever issued for this car and not stolen.
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Every state is different, in NY cars didn't have titles pre 1973 / but they had a transferrable registration. What state is the car registered in ? What state are you buying it from ?? What state was it last titled in ?
DO NOT BUY A CAR FROM A STATE THAT REQUIRES TITLES & THE SELLER FROM THAT STATE DOESN'T HAVE IT !! That's your proof of ownership & it will also in NY show any & all liens or salvage issues. Again every state is different. If there is No title there MUST be other legal documents to transfer ownership.
Ner Jersey and the car was never titled, the original owner never got a title from the dealership and the man who bought it in 1985 never put it on the road. It has been is storage ever since. There is no record of a title for this vehicle.

This is the car
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It looks like it has a 85 inspection sticker on the windshield. Wouldn't that require a title in NJ? Just guessing here.
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you appear to be right maybe the sticker serial number would lead to more info . when i lived in jersey sticker had number of month due in center year was smaller below
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Joe, if you have a friend with a legitimate repair shop, have him do a lien sale for you. Just have him file a mechanic's lien or even a storage lien. Easy, legal and done in 30 days.
I have done this in the past and recieved a clean title in my name without problem.
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If no title there is a "MSO" Manufacturers Statement of Origin, which is the document used to get a title.

imop someone is handing someone a line of ****. Just because LEO doesn't show anything, they don't have old records, the DMV on the other hand does.
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I've bought two motor vehicles without title. But before I did, I had a cop friend run the vin to reveal if stolen or in bank default. THAT's CRITICAL

Following that, applied for a mechanics lien via local magistrate court. YOUR dominion / province / state court's procedures will govern YOUR path.
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I purchased a car (not a Vette) about 15 years ago. no title but had the Vin checked as you did. found a lady in Maine that offered to get it titled in Maine. cost me a fee of 200 plus the title and registration fees. She mailed me the title and plates. I still have one of those Maine plates. went into the DMV and transferred. Very easy. the car was a 81 model.
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Originally Posted by joe29
we had the vin run and then had police run iy, NO TITLE ever issued for this car and not stolen.
Why would Police run the title? Is there a criminal investigation related?
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EVERY state is different. There 100% was a title issued to the original owner of that car if it was JERSEY in 1982 when it was purchased. It was probably lost !!
( AGAIN EVERY STATE IS DIFFERENT )

The car was 100% registered because it has an 85 inspection sticker on the car. MSO's ( Manufacturers Statement of Origin ) are usually only issued to licensed New Car dealers from the factory. In New York they call the MSO a "CO" Certificate of Origin. That is turned into DMV to obtain title & proof of ownership. The only way around not having it titled from the original when "NEW" dealer In Rare cases would be if a customer is paying cash an MSO / CO is or can be given to a customer to go to DMV to title & register it themselves. At that time they are also required to pay the required state sales taxes on the car they just purchased. The car would have to leave the dealership property on a flat bed or on a dealer plate. This seller today if they even had an MSO can't transfer an MSO to you if they had one it would be assigned to him in his name unprocessed. ( AKA SKIPPING TITLE ) You need a title to transfer ownership or in NY on an older car pre 1973 a transferable registration. If the car was never titled, which I would find to be very odd & a very rare case, then applicable sales taxes were never paid either. There is a lot more to this story, sounds extremely fishy.

PROCEED WITH CAUTION is all I can say !!!

I WOULD NEVER, EVER - DID I SAY EVER ??? BUY A CAR WITHOUT A TITLE .

Go to your local DMV first before handing over $1 for this car & see in your state explain the situation, give them the vin & see what they advise ! I know what i'm doing, but don't listen to me, anyone on here, or a guy charging $895 to process.Don't run the vin, call the police or listen to any NON experts.
GO TO YOUR LOCAL DMV TO BE 100% !Hate to hear all the mishaps & sad stories after the fact !
Good luck to you / I wish you the best & welcome NEWBIE forum brotha.

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Joe,
You may want to take a quick look at this thread that was posted in the C2 section just last week before you consider one of those out state title suppliers:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...us-titles.html
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I don't think it is that unusual for older cars to not be titled. CT does not issue titles for older vehicles. The cut off is either 20 or 25 years. I used to live in NY state and as previously posted on this thread, cars prior to 1973 are not titled. Three years ago I bought a '69 with a MA title. I took it to the CT DMV to get the car registered and they confiscated the title, handed me two plates and a registration and sent me on my way. All older cars are sold with a bill of sale only now. The DMV offers a very nice, official looking BOS for this purpose. In addition, because the car was bought out of state I had to get a VIN verification check which I can have done by my local Chevy dealer.
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A 1982 C3 has a standard 17-digit VIN. Do your due diligence, but it should be much easier to find information online, either for free or a service, to see if the car has been reported stolen. That's the only real danger, right? Then it is up to your state what else you can do. If you can register and drive it with a bill of sale, and you can get the car for a song, what's the problem?



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