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Hello, potentially new C3 owner here. I am looking at a car, and need some questions answered before I buy it. It is a 1982 model, and I hear they have a ALDL terminal access for basic diagnostics of the ECM. My question is how exactly do I access this diagnostic info? I know where the port is located, but all steps after that are beyond me. Thank you!
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Originally Posted by nitan2k
Hello, potentially new C3 owner here. I am looking at a car, and need some questions answered before I buy it. It is a 1982 model, and I hear they have a ALDL terminal access for basic diagnostics of the ECM. My question is how exactly do I access this diagnostic info? I know where the port is located, but all steps after that are beyond me. Thank you!
The simple down and dirty for an 82 is to use a paperclip bent into a "U" shape and insert it into the ALDL port located under the ashtray. While looking down at the connector, short out pins A/B which are the two pins in the left corner, second row. This will cycle the IAC motors one time and also allow you to read the CEL light flashes for any trouble codes. The BEST thing you can have for an 82 is the GM Service Manual. BUY ONE! It has all that info in there. DO NOT buy the other manuals like Hayne's, Chilton etc... They are junk in comparison and if you have a fireplace, you can use those manuals as a fire starter. GL if you buy an 82.
Last edited by Buccaneer; Oct 8, 2021 at 03:18 AM.
@Buccaneer@Fast81 thank you both. yea welcome to the craziness is right, in the past week I've learned a *** ton and found a *** ton more problems, will keep making threads until its at least highway worthy!
The paperclip to read the codes and a voltmeter is probably all you'll ever need. But the ALDL can provide interesting data and save you some time diagnosing tricky issues. You can get a USB adaptor and use open source software to read the data. However, it's a real pain to get working since most of the software is pretty old now.
When I was working at GM I met an old timer that worked on the Crossfire back in the day. He recommend finding an old MPSI 3818. I found one like new off of eBay cheaper than what I paid for the USB cable. It didn't come with instructions but was easy enough to figure out.
Take alot of pics before starting. The top-plate has a "****-ton" of ground connections and brackets mounted to the bolts/studs. we use an untouched 82CE as our reference EVERY time we work on our 82 project...................
buccaneer is one of the best info and help sources for this crossfire setup. but try not to beat him to death with every question you can think of. we all rely too heavily on the acknowledged experts in each field. and here is a cheap MPSI 3818. https://www.ebay.com/itm/11494166523...4AAOSwTxhfpMZr
From: Arizona - If you don’t know CFI, STOP proliferating the myths around it...
Originally Posted by derekderek
buccaneer is one of the best info and help sources for this crossfire setup. but try not to beat him to death with every question you can think of. we all rely too heavily on the acknowledged experts in each field. and here is a cheap MPSI 3818. https://www.ebay.com/itm/11494166523...4AAOSwTxhfpMZr
Thank you for that vote, just trying to help out all the CFI guys now that the cars are almost 40 years old and stuff is starting to go wrong on these cars. Anyway...I saw those years ago, but never had any hands on experience with them and always wondered if they were any good. Looks like it may be something to look at though.